I gotta disagree. This scenario happens a lot in the NFL if you've been paying attention. A strict, conservative, disciplinarian coach is replaced by a "player's coach." For the first year or two things work great, but by the third year things start falling apart and eventually stop working all together.
You can't say that. SF and the Jets were two totally different organizations, with different styles and lockerrooms. You can't say that he would have gotten hurt here or would have played poorly. If Braylon had stayed, he could have been happy and been a big part of the offense. He wanted to stay after all. Sanchez and he seemed to have a good rapport. He always played hard. If the Jets had shown him some love, appreciation and respect instead of chasing after Nnamdi, he could have stayed for a good deal less than Santonio. As it is, Braylon should have been signed and Santonio told to hit the road. Braylon is a better all around WR and contributed more to the overall offense than Holmes did/does.
For the billionth time, Braylon got hurt in the Pre-season when he banged knees with Vernon Davis. Jets don't have Vernon Davis so it's a safe bet that he wouldn't have suffered a Knee injury had he been signed. (at least I hope that....lol)
I mean it's hard to disagree that a guy like Cotchery fits the Steelers locker-room more than the Jets locker-room...
It's too easy to criticize the OC, that's what everyone does. If I thought his playcalling was what was holding us back I'd complain but to me it's execution and that starts up front. What people fail to realize is early in the season when we threw a lot we HAD to. The OL was bad, the run game was bad and we were falling behind. this wasn't some philosophical change, it was one that had to be made w/in the game. The last few weeks the run game was working, Greene was running well but we had a million penalties which forced us to pass and we again got behind against Philly and NYG. The bottom line is this, if we ran 65% of the time we would have had the same record and fans would have complained we ran too much but we passed a little more often(out of necessity) and went 8-8 so the thinking is we passed too much but you have to look at why we passed too much. It's not black and white, looking at that Giants boxscore 2 weeks ago would be startling except we had a million penatlies putting us in pass situations and then fell behind double digits in the 3rd qtr- add in the poor play of the OL, the run game being good half the year, the inconsistency of the QB and WRs and I don't believe the OC is the reason we didn't play well. Does he deserve some blame? Absolutely, he, rex, the players all deserve blame but I'm not throwing them out b/c of one bad year(which in most years in our history would have been a good year at 8-8). The bottom line is any team an O fails the OC will take the heat, he and the QB are the easiest guys to blame and if we get a new OC the next one will be praised initially then bashed like crazy when things don't go perfect.
Your excuse would be nice if Schotty had a bad season. Problem is, he didn't just have a bad season. He's had a bad career. Even when we were winning, he's been the weak link. At some point, the excuses have to stop. He's has a veteran, a hand picked rookie and a HOFer with a lot still in the tank and he couldn't get the job done. Essentially, you're saying the only way he can be good is if Aaron Rogers is his QB. Wild guess, but I don't think Green Bay has him on the trade market. Our 1st half futility extends well beyond all this drama as does our 5 yard passes on 3rd and long. Same with our play action passes on 3 and 18, our shovel passes on 3rd and 20+, our failure to get the ball in our best play makers' hands, our inability to confuse defenses etc His incompetence has held this offense back and now it's causing frustration among our WRs... a position that is full of divas to begin with.
the vet was coming off 2 shoulder surgeries, we weren't even sure if he could play in 2006. The HOFer we got less than a month before the season in a new system for the first time in 16 years. He's been developing a raw young QB thre last 3 years and prior to this year(Ol problems, etc...) he was developing very well. Insert any name as the new OC and the fans will eventually whine about him.
So essentially you're saying things have to be perfect for him to be any good? He's not even the head coach and he clearly isn't one of the player's favorites. I don't know many jobs you get this much time to "get adjusted".I get your QB excuses but theres no excuse for being a coordinator in the NFL and not understand down and distance. When it's 3rd and long and you routinely throw 5 yard passes, I don't care who your QB or receivers are. The man is an idiot. Period!
our offense was top 10 in scoring just 3 weeks ago and that was w/ all the problems we had. I'm more concered w/ the defense than I am the offense.
You need to open your eyes. The offense is the problem, and cost us several games directly. In terms of where to place the blame on offense, its everywhere. OC, QB, Oline, and WRs all were terrible. flat out terrible.
of the 8 losses: The D cost us the Raider game and both Pats games The O cost us the Miami game and Baltimore game the 2 combined for the Philly, NYG, and Denver game(D was great until it mattered most). We are supposed to be a D first team, our D was mediocre this year. We will be fine if we can fix the OL, that will be easier than fixing some of the defensive problems. I am more worried about the D
All three units failed at different points in the season. The offense may have been the most glaring example, but it's far from the only problem the Jets had this year.
nyjunc, Remember when I said that you could probably coach better than that Dunce(Schotty)? I take it back. You two seem to be sharing a half-brain apparently...
The 2nd Pats game i think i counted seven 3 and out drives by our offense. That is what cost us that game. Against the Giants, the D let up that huge 99 yd TD with bad tackling, but were decent otherwise. Manning completed 9 passes. Offense was terrible and cost us that game as well with turnovers, sacks, terrible play calling, and terrible QB play. Denver game had a pick 6 and missed FG which was the difference. everyone just remembers the Tebow run. Special teams was really bad as well with punting, fumbled returns, and bothced FGs. I think we'll have some personnel changes there, and Westy will get that unit back on track. The D took a step back, and needs desparate help at Safety and pass rush. That is much more correctable than the mess that was offense this year. i'm not sure how we improve the O just yet, but i believe big changes are needed. Vastly improved oline, QB play, and overall attitude changes will be necessary if we are to be successful. that concerns me a lot.
After we took the lead at the end of the half the D allowed Brady to go 80 yds in a minute to take the momentum and lea dinto halftime, in the 4th we pulled w/in 7 and the D allowed Brady to control the clock and lead another TD drive. The D cost us that game. Decent otherwise besides a 99 yd TD on 3rd and 10 from the 1? That was the play that changed the game around. They played great in den for 55 mins but couldn't stop a non passing team backed up at their 5 w/ 5 mins to play. STs TOs killed us all year. Improving the O will be easy if we can improve the OL(specifically RT). if that happens we'll be good on O(plus some WR help). Defensively we have more question markes but w/ rex and Pettine I have confidence.
Disagree. tons of 3 outs all game against the worst d in football cost us that game. As soon as the D would get Brady off the field, he'd be back on it again. You simply can't give that offense that many possessions. I'm pretty sure fumbling the ball at the 1 yd line, the picks, or the Safety given up when we were within 6 pts had an even bigger impact. last 5 mins doesn't matter if not for the pick 6 or special teams woes. I'd love to get 60 great minutes from the D, but you can't bank on that every week. no doubt so all these woes can be fixed with a RT? wow. The offense has way more issues than that. Something needs to change the whole attitude on O. The trio is Schotty, Sanchez and Holmes should not remain in tact next year. At this point, i have no confidence in any of them. but i'd start with Holmes. i agree the D has question marks, and Rex/Pettine can likely address that way easier than these issues on offense.
we had one more drive than NE had, the TOP was alamost exactly even(7 second difference) so there goes that excuse. The 99 yd TD was a crushing blow, that and the TDs allowed after TOs. You are allowed to hold opponents to FGA's after TOs. We had a 3 pt lead w/ 5 mins to play and the opponent at their 5 yd line. No excuses. Fix the OL and most of the probalems are gone, we have some healing to do w/ Holmes. We have to make sure he is ready to play but it all starts up front, when the OL was playing well the O played well this year.
