My statement was more towards how could he be expected to excel and "prove" anything based on the playing time that was handed to him in 2005, even with our dreadful QB situation taken into consideration? Mainly, not enough time on the field. What were they saving him up for, Christmas? There was nothing to be lost and everything to be gained by throwing every schmoe on our roster out there when it was evident our season was in the toilet. And wouldn't we know with more conviction what we had as far as Cotchery goes had the coaching staff done that? Time wasted when losing could have been used to our advantage to assess other things. So yes, in a way, he is being blamed.
I agree with that for sure. Herman Edwards was horrendous at assesing offensive talent. He started a bunch of rookie defensive players because that was his side he knew well...but when it came to offense he had no clue... Remember the 2002 TC? When Herm was saying Chad would never be good until he "let it go"? Nice one herm...22 TD's later and a AFC East division later... I think Jerricho will have his shot this year so the truth will be known.
Cotchery should get his shot to start this year in training camp.... I don't think Jmac will be handed a starting job with Mangini in town.
BUZZ, wrong answer. You good sir haven't been watching Jets games. In the limited action Cotchery has shown over the past few seasons, last season especially, he has proven himself to have very good hands, deceptive speed and the ability to require multiple defenders to bring him down. Don't fault the guy because our HC had his head so far up his ass that he wouldn't play him. If given the chance, I can see Cotchery easily solidifying his position as the #3 receiver, and certainly challenging for #2.
I totally agree, Cotchery will be a better number 2 WR then McCareins. He has speed, the hands and would be a good change of pace.
Cotchery needs to be given a decent shot at proving himself. Last season he showed great promise, toughness, and an attitude I wish more Jets players had. If he shows his true talent in Training Camp, I would put him in at #2 and not look back...
I think Winston is making the right call on McCareins. I was high as hell on McCareins last year after watching him at TC. He really worked hard at it. In fact, he was one of the only ones putting 150% into the windsprints, etc., and that was on an afternoon when it reached 102 degrees. His work ethic is outstanding. He made a lost of catches too, in practice that is. BUT... (and probably because of this) I also carefully studied his attempted catches throughout the year and was quite disappointed. In a game that counts and with defenders who mean business (not just practice) he'll catch a ball thrown directly to him, but don't expect him to extend himself. Catching difficult passes is what makes a receiver great in this league and he doesn't have it, I'm sorry to say. There was one announcer during one of the games who even said, "He should have had that one," and I know everyone is entitled to a miss or two, but I remember at the time saying to myself that it just seemed like a metaphor for his entire season. And with Coles on the field last year as "bait" or "decoy," you'd expect Justin to make more catches because he should be getting open more often with Coles drawing all the attention. No so. The separation is the problem, as Winston says. It's just not there. He's not open enough, and when he does have a little window, if the ball isn't right there it doesn't get caught. Cotchery? Of course he'll get a shot and deserves to. He needs to step up this year, really fine-tune his skills now in the offseason and work out extra hard. He can come on strong in camp and he'll have a lot of eyeballs on him I think, but I really don't expect much more from McCareins, and I'm sorry to say that. The sooner Mangini finds this out the sooner he can make adjustments in our receiving corps.
You made a great point here. What makes McCariens intriguing is that he is long and looks like the type who can stride and extend for the ball. In fact he excells at catching balls right on him in traffic because he is stronger than most defensive backs. The problem is he doesn't use his length to either create seperation or extend for balls.
Cotchery is so slow and sluggish that he has returned kick returns for touchdowns, and caught that beautiful bomb pass from Bollinger towards the end of the season.
After watching him, McCareins doesn't have the "fight" that Coles or Wayne Chrebet have. Coles doesn't get any more separation than McCariens gets and in fact, he may even get a little less. But he fights for the ball better and puts his body on the line more. There's something lacking with McCareins there... afraid of injury and being out for the season or ending his career... don't know what it is, but it's like he plays it safe. Maybe he has a mental thing with extending his career as long as possible... I don't know. Cotchery, on the other hand, gets more separation, so he doesn't need to have to constantly fight for it, not that he can't if he has to. It's just a difference in will. Cotch and Coles want to catch the ball more, at least that's the way McCareins makes it appear, and I don't know what a coach can do to break that habit. He has to put his body on the line and make the difficult catches and take the hits more. McCareins was brought here on the advice of Heimerdinger, if you'll recall, and I thought we had something there. But McCareins has yet to prove he's a durable "go to" and that he can make the not-so-perfectly thrown ball. Hopefully Mangini and Company can either tell him he needs to put it all on the line this year, or get sometbody out there who will. We're not going anywhere this year anyway, so we still have time to draft people and acquire other WRs in F/A if needed in the next two years.
please kelly campbell is #4 wr's on evry team he is been and has made more plays in 1 year than coth has made his enitre career. and campvell is 5'9 140 pounds wet. Kelly Campbell Position: WR Height: 5-10 Weight: 173 Born: 07/23/1980 College: Georgia Tech NFL Experience: 4 Code: 2002 Minnesota Vikings 6 2 13 176 13.5 32 3 3 0 10 2003 Minnesota Vikings 15 6 25 522 20.9 72 4 9 6 15 2004 Minnesota Vikings 16 3 19 364 19.2 61 1 7 4 14 # 89 Jerricho Cotchery Position: WR Height: 6-0 Weight: 207 Born: 06/16/1982 College: North Carolina State NFL Experience: 3 Code: Year Team G GS No Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ FD 2004 New York Jets 12 0 6 60 10.0 18 0 0 0 4 2005 New York Jets 16 1 19 251 13.2 45 0 3 1 1 now tell me if a #4 wr could get those #s you telling me cotchery couldnt do better at the slot? 251 yards in 16 games? again untill im proven wrong by cotchary this season. i still believe he hasnt proven aything to be #2
he has 1 td in the return game... guess that makes hima gamebreaker huh? nate burleson has a PR td does that make him super fast? rod smart has a PR td too does tha make him fast?
The Vikings had a QB who could actually throw the ball down the field the Jets don't have one and Cotchery never got a chance for any extended time here. Now it could be he doesn't deserve it but based on what we saw from our HC it's pretty clear that the only way you got a chance on O is if the veteran left the game in a body bag.
ok i agree with herm.. but all im saying he was so geat he would make some kind of explosive play on the field when he get a chance 19 catches not one amazing to remember.i dont think qbs were intentionally not throwing to cotch. maybe he just wanst open? maybe he will be solid one day. but usually when your a real playmaker you show it right away troy williamson has more big plays than cotch. and he didnt even play in 16 games.. it just my opinion though hopefully im wrong and coth can catch 50 balls and 800 yards this season
Cotchary played in 16 games and even started a game. nuff said. it wasnt like he only saw 1 play the guy had 19 catches. after chrebet went down he was full time slot wr
Counterpoint: 1) He did make explosive plays on the field- great catches, solid speed and some Mark Bavaro type moves where it took more than one guy to drag him down- you weren't watching. 2) QB's weren't throwing to Cotchery BECAUSE he never got to see the field. In those games where he was on the field, do you know how many times the QB's actually ATTEMPTED to throw the ball to him, resulting in 19 catches? I assure you that the # isn't too high. 3) Don't fault the guy because he didn't play in 16 games. Your former idiot HC felt it was better to leave a slower, concussion prone receiver in the games instead. Smart, right?
:lol: so true... but like i said . this is his make or break year. Lets see what he got ramsey has a big gun so it shouldnt be a problem reaching him down the field. or anywhere on the field for that matter. so in the end we still have three #2 wrs at best.. and jmac being a #2 is very questionable as is cotch.
Chrebet went down in game 8 and had a total of 15 catches for 153 yards. To put it in context Cotch in about the same number of games had over 100 more yards on 4 more catches in the same amount of games as Chrebet had.
