Jeff Briggs: Idzik keeps door open for Braylon Edwards

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  1. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You know which one you wont find that says so.....

    A list of the first 38 picks.

    Guys, please stop blaming me for two things.

    1985er, trying to turn every thread into the Sanchez sucks thread, and....

    The fact that you Genomaniacs, are overexpecting a second round pick to actually produce.
     
  2. Dom

    Dom Well-Known Member

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    And I guess the list of the first 31 picks in the 2001 draft said Drew Brees wouldn't make it either
     
  3. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    so you want 8 guys all who can play special teams but also to sign edwards and owens? that does not mesh.
     
  4. The 1985er

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    I'm sure Braylon is thinking special teams>>unemployment
     
  5. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    sure braylon maybe willing but is he able. thats alot of running and contact. special teams is definietly a younger mans game.
    like i have said before, i am not opposed to bringing in a edwards or lloyd, i just am not at panick mode yet and would like to see how t.c. goes for a few of these guys first.
    the fact that edwards and lloyd are still on the street tells me they are probably not the cure all to our wr problems.so why not wait a little longer to see if we have an equal or better talent here first.
    patience is key. we are not excpecting big things this year and we knew there would be some holes in the roster going into camp.idzick has done well to create competition in most of last years trouble spots.the fact that he hasn't done anything with wr lends me to believe he sees something in some of our prospects. since he has not done anything to lose my trust yet i am going to trust him here too.
     
  6. The 1985er

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    The reason is that teams would rather get younger. Nothing against Lloyd's or Edwards abilities. IMO none of these young guys are ready to produce and we have no stability at the position now that Holmes is gonna be out longer than expected. We need experienced guys that can run routes and make catches. Let the Marcus Davis and Zach Rogers develop at their own pace. Idzik is preaching "competition" but Hill's job security isn't in jeopardy despite him not doing jack shit in this league up to this point.

    Bring Braylon and Lloyd in. Give the young QB's some NFL receivers to throw to.
     
  7. FJF

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    who said holmes is going to be out longer than expected? he may start on the pup but that doesnt mean 1. it was unexpected and 2. he will miss any game time.
    secondly,what harm is it to give the youngsters 2 weeks of camp before making any decisions? if your signing a veteran he should be a pro and be able to come in and pick things up between preseason weeks 2-4.
    i am just preaching some patience. we are in much better shape than alot of people thought we would be in at this stage of the reconstruction
     
  8. The 1985er

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    There is a thread on the 1st page saying that Holmes injury was one of the worst ever. I have no problem with giving the young guys reps but we also need to get the vet in here as soon as possible to learn the offense.
     
  9. Dom

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    also having a veteran receiver might be better for geno if he starts. you can't have a totally young offense out there, he'll need a security blanket that he can trust. brandon or bray could be that guy and help him get more confident and expand as a player
     
  10. Hobbes3259

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    Drew Brees was so bad in his third year, the Chargers spent a number one pick, to acquire Philip Rivers.


    Remind me again, who was Brees coach?

    Seeing a pattern here?
     
  11. FJF

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    they said it was the most severe type. not the worst ever. and it doesn't say he will miss more time the expected. the fact is the jets have never given any indication on how long it will take other than to state he may start on the pup. the writers are speculating based on that. i will not take the inaction in regards to the wr corps as incompetence. idzick has reasons why he hasnt done anything and at this point there is no reason to believeitsnot the right move.
    we jet fans need to stop looking at worst case scenario from every report that is published
     
  12. Hobbes3259

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    Edwards is able.

    Especially since Hill is the outside/speed guy.

    With Kerley in the Slot, edwards could play the SE role, wirhout Holmes (previous) explosoveness, his size is a decent trade off, and he has chemistry with Sanchez.


    Which is why he is not here.


    The team is unwilling to do anything (rightfully) that can be construed as supporting Sanchez.

    Once (if, though I clearly think when), Sanchez wins the job, I would expect Edwards to be in uniform..

    Though, as a caveat, we have no way of assessing Jordan White.
     
  13. PolygamyWinsChampionships

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    These are the only three sentences out of the insane walls and walls of text you put up everyday that actually means anything. Very little at that since he somehow got worse last year, but yeah.

    Keep up the good fight.
     
  14. FJF

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    Edwards doesn't last 3 games playing special teams and the reason he is not here has nothing to do with sanchez. he is not here because idzick does not feel he should be on this roster and that is it. the fact that he brought sims walker in for a look means he knows the wr's need some help. the fact that braylon was not brought in says he is not the help they need right now.
    everybody needs to realize that there is no more knee jerk reactions to a day or 2 of no pad practice. there is a precise method and guideline to the type of players being acquired right now and it doesn't appear the 30 something y.o. wr's at the end of their careers are on that list.it maybe in 2 months when we learn more about what we have and don't have. it's funny because everyone is calling for the move tanny would have made. idzick is playing it slow and methodical.
     
  15. Jersey Joe 67

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    Braylon can still contribute and we have zero offense so I don't see how this can be seen as a bad thing?
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    :rofl:


    Yes, edwards chemistry with Nacho isnt noticeable.

    He walked in off the street last year, and contributed.

    Yes, precise,,, like Ivory,and Goodman, and Sims walker all have measured talent, and prolific careers.

    Please.
     
  17. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    ok first things first. are you capable of making a post without referencing sanchez? you have reached raiderjeaux status and are a punchline on this board now.

    2. ivory and goodman both have produced and have years remaining in their careers. since sims walker wasn't offered a contract he isn't worth mentioning anymore. braylon does not fit the age requirements right now. he is a stopgap. the f.o. isn't signing stopgaps.look at the players they signed and tell me how any are in the same category as braylon as far as age/potential.
     
  18. louissockalexis

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    The worst thing you can do for young players is pamper them by not bringing in NFL-level competition. You want guys to rise to the occasion, not win a position by default. If you can't beat out a player making the veteran minimum, you don't deserve to be out there playing.

    Send the message to young players that winning is the most important thing, and you will wind up developing the best young players. Otherwise, they will think the organization is a joke, become entitled and fail to push themselves. Sound familiar?
     
  19. FJF

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    ^ I am not saying the players we have now is it. I am saying there is no reason to start combing the scrap heap right now. they had 3 practices in shorts in june with a new system. i'd say a lot of the drops are from thinking through the routes and not concentrating on the ball. the kind of things that happen during an install. part of the reason this team became so thin is due to the constant signing of stop gaps. we have to let some young guys develop. give them a week or 2 in t.c. if by preseason week 1 it still looks rough bring in bray and see what he can do. he definitely won't need and would actually benefit from not going through an entire camp.
     

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