Jay Glazer: Rex Believes He's Fired

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by DMarsh6, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    Rex haters trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat justifying Rex not being here next year
     
  2. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    Huh?
    I wrote nothing about his contract.

    Just so you know-
    I wanted Ryan fired after 2011.
    I wanted Ryan fired after 2012.

    If he is brought back, he is going to get an extension of at least one year.
     
  3. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390
    Being young doesn't excuse lack of production. Hill is young and he sucks so that's not progress. Same with Milliner for most of this year. There's others too. There are other young teams around the league who have way better production. This team has regressed since the 2010 season in terms of on the field production and talent on the roster. Rex is involved in both of those areas.
     
  4. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    He has a 3-13 team personnel-wise and will have coached it to 7 or 8 wins.

    I agree his teams have regressed. You obviously haven't seen my anti-Ryan posts through the years. A lot of it is on Tannenbaum too. Tannenbaum was worse actually. He was a complete fraud and was a mediocre GM at best.
     
  5. Section 336

    Section 336 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2006
    Messages:
    7,024
    Likes Received:
    5,436
    And this could be the rub, I don't think Rex agrees to a 1 year extension.
    I also don't think Idzik wants to extend Rex at all, but 1 year seems reasonable.
    I think the best scenario he coaches out his contract.
    Who knows maybe there as been some talk and that is why Rex feels he is not coming back.
     
  6. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    292
    I'm right with you on the challenges and timeouts, I've said it 10 times. It accounts for about 1% of the game, but yep he fucking sucks at it.

    He's building a defensive juggernaut, finally we see that the Milliner pick is justified and I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time either...definitely hated it until the past month.

    I don't believe that you're going to bring in a DC to creatively use the DL in non-traditional positions and good blitzes/schemes with man coverage utilizing a developing CB in Milliner, it won't happen. If you don't promote a top DC to HC you won't tempt them from another team, impossible. If you rely on Dunbar with no proven track record to get the most out of the entire investment of the team, you're crazy.

    Sanchez was a bust, we're all sad about it but that's life. The team is rebooting, give the guy a fucking shot to do what he set out to. When you start from scratch you wind up with a total idiot more often than not and I've seen enough of that already. Let the defense develop one more year and if it isn't going right by then can him for an offensive guy. What is the big deal?
     
  7. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    I am the biggest Millner hater on this board and I am very impressed with his play the past 3 weeks. He's progressing as well as Wilkerson Coples Richardson.

    Even Geno and Nelson have become better players. Kerley too.

    The team regressed due to bad selections with Stephen Hill and Vlad and the cap situation.

    Im not putting that all on Rex. The scouting and the GM are culprits.

    Rex didnt want Stephen Hill remember?
     
  8. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390

    Well I guess we agree to disagree then. Yes they are different things but I just don't think Ryan is a good HC and his total disregard for the offense for years has hurt this team immeasurably.
     
  9. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390
    I'm not putting it all on Rex either but he does deserve part of the blame since he's the HC.

    The biggest concern is Rex's complete inability to understand offense. Not to mention his in game coaching leaves a lot to be desired. He's a good DC and that's it.
     
  10. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,899
    Likes Received:
    9,223
    Anyone who would claim that ANY head coach has a "total disregard for the offense" cannot have anything he writes taken seriously.
     
  11. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390
    I agree with this. He really set this roster back a good year or two in terms of talented depth and skill players.
     
  12. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390
    Anyone who has a clue would know this to be true of Ryan. That's a big reason that they brought in MM. Try watching a game sometime.
     
  13. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    22,232
    Likes Received:
    12,245
    I think his knowledge on defense can help the offense. It has before - notice how the offensive line has been better the past 2 weeks. You don't think Rex teaching the offensive line coaches and offensive line about blitzes didn't help?

    I have the find the article on it - but I did read something about it. I agree he needs to do better in that department, I hope he spends time with Marty over the off-season.

    Now that he has a true coordinator on offense - I think Rex can expand his knowledge on the game.
     
  14. Cakes

    Cakes Mr. Knowledge 2010

    Joined:
    May 20, 2003
    Messages:
    20,810
    Likes Received:
    232
    The Holmes and Sanchez contracts were terrible.

    The Holmes trade was good, but bringing him back for 2011 was stupid. I wrote it here at the time of the trade. 12 games in the regular season and a few playoff games for a 5th round pick was good. He was playing in 2010 for a contract. Pitt had gotten rid of him because he is an asshole. One would think Tannenbaum should have figured that out.
     
  15. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,899
    Likes Received:
    9,223
    I've probably been to more games than you've watched and don't need to explain my credentials to you. Perhaps your problem is mostly with the English language.
     
  16. tomdeb

    tomdeb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,395
    Likes Received:
    3,111

    Did Rex ever consider drafting some players for offense? Oh, that's right...Rex has nothing to do with the draft...he beats his chest that he is a defensive coach... the jets have used their last 4 number one picks on defense. All coincidences.
     
  17. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Messages:
    7,286
    Likes Received:
    3,390
    Well based on your defense of Ryan and the pitiful offense under his watch you must've been sleeping through most of those games. That tells me all I need to know.
     
  18. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,899
    Likes Received:
    9,223
    "I like what I see out of our high rookie draft picks. Geno and Milliner, Playmakers!!" - Guess who?
     
    #198 Ralebird, Dec 22, 2013
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2013
  19. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2004
    Messages:
    36,670
    Likes Received:
    14,472
    The only year Rex won fewer games than I thought he would given the personnel was 2011. It's hard to win the number of games the Jets have won the last 5 years with a mediocre QB let alone one of the worst in the league but that's what Rex has accomplished.

    In 2011 the Jets should have won more games. They should have finished with 9 or 10 wins and made the playoffs. The wheels fell off at the end of the season under the weight of a QB who could not lead and a WR who thought he was the straw that stirred the drink.
     
  20. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2011
    Messages:
    2,113
    Likes Received:
    292
    We don't always agree and I'm sure it's not because I'm always right but happy to see you weighing in on the sensible side. Just hope Idzik sees it too.
     

Share This Page