Sigh. It doesn't have to be one or the other, but when faced with having to choose between one or the other, most of us would opt for the boring HC who's very good at the rest of his job over the entertaining guy who pretty much sucks at the rest of his job. Why do some of you insist on going to extremes in your responses, when it's obvious and abundantly clear that's not where the poster was going that you're responding to. It does nothing to further the discussion and is a stupid thing to do.
If Rex Ryan spent as much time preparing for games as he did for press conferences, the Jets might have topped .500 in 2011, 2012, 2013 or 2014.
I don't doubt that part. But really, the Bills could have hired a dog to be their headcoach and it would have made them crazy amounts of money. Who wouldn't pay for tickets to see a dog stand there on the sideline calling plays? Rex is a brand. He stands for entertainment, meltdowns, chaos. Not so much for his success as a coach, for his ability to improve players. Because we know what has happened to this team from the day he took over to 5+ years later, how terrible this team has gotten. It wasn't just his fault, but he was a big part of it. The Bills had other guys in mind when they were looking for a HC, and then they had to settle for Rex. It was pretty embarrassing. I think their owner said "no thanks" (even admitted it) at first, but then they got talked into hiring him, when nobody else wanted to coach the Bills. Dan Quinn was their #1 guy I believe and they had no shot at him. In the end they tried to make it look like there were so many options for them and they went "You know what, this Rex guy is special, let's decline all those other interviews we have lined up and hire Rex, we're gonna be really ballsy here now". When really Rex was the only guy left. Outside of Mangini and a couple of other bums.
So what we're doin now is given the 1st 2 year successes to the previous regime too? I mean, the bravado is what he came in with ...so
Because the media is covering the NFL, without the media these guys would barely make a dollar. Players have to talk to the media, coaches have to talk, they all have to talk to make sure these reporters get paid. That's part of the deal. It has nothing to do with being entertaining. Their job is to answer questions, mostly injury/scheme related. Reporters don't write stories on the jokes that coaches crack during pressers. You're not gonna find the little Gladys Knight reference in any article. And his personality has everything to do with how the players look at him and whether they respect him as a leader, as an authority. Nobody respects Rex as a leader or as an authority. However I think most if not all players LOVE being around him because they view him as one of them. They don't look at him as an authority. That's where he fails. He's like a fat Ray Lewis. To a certain degree you try to listen to him and please him but at the end of the day you know he's just a player, he has no say in anything, there won't be any consequences if you don't make him happy. Rex can talk all day, people don't listen. Everybody gets away with whatever they feel like doing. Not showing up to meetings, over and over again, missing meetings, showing up late for meetings, nobody cares because nobody respects him as an authority. He's not gonna do anything, he's one of them. He's like a dad that tried to be its son's best friend instead of being a dad and being responsible. If you let your kid get away with everything he'll walk all over you. Try that with Belichick and Bowles and see how that works out for you.
I would give Rex Ryan more credit for that first year if a) he had not taken over a 9-7 team and b) he wasn't completely surprised (like many Jet fans were) to still be in playoff contention after a 1-6 run in the middle of the season. Had Cincinnati (J.T O'Sullivan?!) or the Colts (Curtis Painter?!) not rested their starters we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. It's five years later and he's inherited another 9-7 team with a stout defense. He's hand-picked his QB again. Let's see what happens. Either he reclaims the '09 magic or the scapegoating via leaks to the media will begin. Unfortunately, the Bills GM may be too media-savy to take the fall for nice guy Rex Ryan this time round. That means if things get shaky the blame will likely fall to the QB(ie: "Sanchez sux!") or OC (ie: "Fire Schotty!", "Fire Sparano!", "Fire Mornhinweg!") or the DC ("Fire Pettine!").
So now your saying there's two sides to a HCs responsibilities....coaching the team and working the room. I hope Bowles is a better head coach than he is working a room.
Nobody is working the room, they're answering questions, that's what they're required to do. It's no different than what Obama does during one of his pressers. You make it sound like it's some sort of comedy gig, like that after the game now the real work starts for headcoaches, they have to go out there and be funny and entertain reporters, it's the other half of their job.
Not gonna start a new thread on this but here's Bill Cowher praising the Jets for hiring Chan. But we'll probably again have people complain about how Bill Cowher doesn't know shit and that he's overrated and probably got paid off by Chan to say these things. http://www.newsday.com/sports/colum...iley-says-former-coach-bill-cowher-1.10835292
As far as I know Todd has won NOTHING yet & if he does not win the SB he will be just another ho hum losing coach just like EVERY HC we have had since Weeb
The hire was good because Chan's offense fits the player personnel. Marty Mornhinweg was a good offensive coordinator, but the personnel didn't fit the offensive philosophy of the WCO.
He has won nothing yet because it's his first year. What did Harbaugh do before landing the Ravens HC job and winning a superbowl with them? He was a special teams coordinator. What has Leonard Williams done? Why can't you get excited about adding a talent or somebody who shows promise and fits in? Nobody said he'll be remembered as the greatest HC of all time if he doesn't even make the playoffs once. All that remains to be seen. But so far he's handled everything well and personally as far as I'm concerned I'm all in on Bowles & Macc. I was never even in on ratface Idzik, let alone all in.
If Rex had a better w/l record he'd still be here. But he's probably better off in Buffalo. I heard they sold 60,000 season tickets since he got there.
Well, of course he'd still be here if he had won a lot more games. That's like saying if Sanchez hadn't thrown any interceptions we would have won some superbowls and that he would have been considered one of the all time greats.
I didn't say "a lot more games"... Nor did I say anything about Sanchez...but don't let that stop you. My point is that Rex didn't go off the rails because of the NY media. He lost his job because he couldn't back up his bullshit.
But who said otherwise? Of course he was fired for a lack of success. Why else would you fire him. Him acting like a clown each week, being a distraction, not holding players accountable etc. just didn't help him keep his job.
Really? You mean that if all HCs that were fired had a better W-L record they'd still be with their team? What's your point?
My point is that Rex didn't lose his job because of his shenanigans, and would have kept it in spite of them...if he won. Pretty simple really. And I never said "that if all HCs that were fired had a better W-L record they'd still be with their team". I said if Rex had a better record. You quoted what I wrote...it's right there. On another note, why does everyone here always want to start a fight? It's getting fucking ridiculous.
