In fairness the owner of the Rams was trying to move out of St Louis and move to LA for years. I think he actually wanted the Rams to suck. If you look at what they have actually done since they got permission to move is they drafted a great young QB, cleared cap space and then they brought in a new staff and started loading up on the talent. In fairness to Fisher, the Rams drafted a lot of really good D that's still in place. It's not a coincidence that we didn't completely suck before we were selling PSL's into the new stadium. If you look at what we are doing right now, we are taking our lumps with a Rookie QB. We are sitting on a ton of cap space. If Darnold is really good by next year and we have an elite QB by year 2 or 3 still on a rookie contract, we will be in exactly the same position as the Rams are today. Granted Bowles may not be that guy to take them to the next level. To be determined. He might be depending on how Darnold responds. I think clearly the Jets are trying to follow the Rams model.
I have no idea what business experience you have or if you can distinguish between what a person's job is and what his responsibilities may be but let's look at a couple of examples that may help you see this more clearly. An executive chef is responsible for every morsel of food that comes out of his kitchen; if the fish is a day too old, the steak is overcooked or the sauce is too salty it's on him even though the pantry man may have pulled the fish out, the grill guy screwed up the steak and a new sous chef made the sauce - that's their job but it is the executive chef's responsibility to put the product on the table. A partner in a law firm may not take every disposition or do the research on a case or write a brief to submit but if these things are done wrong the responsibility falls on the lead lawyer or the partner, not the kid right out of law school who did his job but did it poorly. Assembling a staff, developing players, setting a roster, devising game plans and running a game are all the responsibilities of the head coach regardless of how he delegates the tasks to accomplish the goal of winning every game. Of course the HC cannot do this alone but he's in charge of all of it. The buck stops with the guy at the top - the Head Coach. He owns it; good, bad or ugly.
Before he coached the Giants Tom Coughlin took the Jacksonville Jaguars to the AFC Championship Game. He did it in the 2nd year of the franchise's existence. As for being a hard ass, yes he was. . But he was not so set in his ways that he wasn't above having a sit down with his team leaders and letting them air their grievances at which point he learned there was a time and a place to be a hard ass and that he didn't have to put the hammer down 24/7. In short, he learned to save his gunpowder -- he learned to adjust. .. edit: .He then won Super Bowls. .
oops, my bad. . (seriously) while i can post some corny ass shit i did not mean that. . was a brain cramp. .. edit/fixed .
welcome to management. a team is a company. bowles is a middle manager. what do you think middle managers do? I'm not clinging onto him either i said several times if he doesn't get us to the playoffs in 2019 then it's time for a change. The reason i want to give him more time is you build to a system which is installed via the coach and it's how you pick players. if we get rid of him and bring in a different system we need a whole change of personal which will set us back many years as we throw away everything mac did for the past 2 years and start all over. it's a big set back. Right now we are on the verge of being a good team with lots of cheap young talent a ton of cap room and been drafting well overall. No reason to set it all back. hell here is a reddit discussion on this very topic form 3 years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/commen...y_do_head_coaches_do/?st=jmmk4tjm&sh=f16f8138 maybe one of their explanations will sit better with you
A good coach knows how to push the right buttons and is not afraid to change. someday hopefully we will get a coach like that here
that's a terrible comparison. a chef works in the kicthen ot make sure orders go out correctly and on time. he doens't set the schedule or manager the waiters the GM does that. the HC is more of the GM in that scenerio. he makes sure the head chef has control of the kitchen and evryone is on time and doing their job and balances the finances and make sure the bills are paid and such but he has people working for him that does that. he just manages the people. if the food is coming out wrong he'll go to the head chef and tell him to fix it. he's the figure head for customer complaints but he's not grabbing a spatula, cooking the meal, and bringing it to a table the best comparison i seen is the HC is like the conductor of an orchestra. he makes sure everyone is playing their part but it's not on him if someone forgets how to play a cello and fucks it up
i already said earlier this thread as a reason on why you don't fire a coach too early. the jags firing coughlin set them back several years. the giants almost fired him but gave him 1 more year and that year he won the SB, he got them a 2nd one as well. then the giants pushed him out and mcadoo was terrible. he only lasted 1 year, no they have schurmer who isn't off to a good start either. that franchise has been set back and is on the down swing. they should have kept coughlin who is now doing well in jax in a FO position
I think I see your problem - you don't comprehend that which you read. That causes you to go off on tangents and create your own arguments; it causes you to talk about a restaurant GM when the subject is about food quality. You would rather talk about waiters showing up on time and bills being paid than quality control of food production when food quality is the precise discussion. Your attempt to draw an analogy between a football coach and an orchestra leader shows how little you understand the responsibilities of an NFL head coach. In any scenario the quality of the product is the responsibility of the guy in charge. I don't know who is in charge of hiring, training and the performance of orchestra musicians, whether it is the conductor or an artistic director. I do know that staffing, training and the product produced by kitchen staff is the responsibility of the executive chef and in professional football the head coach is in charge of what players are on the field, how prepared they are to do their jobs and their performance. Deny it if you wish; you won't convince me - I just pray the owners don't see things your way.
the HC gets all the blame/glory. we all know this. doens't mean it's deserved. i know i won't convince you. you can continue to be ignorant. no sweat off my back why not read the link i posted so other people can tell you that your wrong, ranomd people form an google search or hell go search yourself but you won't or we wouldn't have had this discussion
I understand what a head coach does just fine.Part of their job is to delegate but that doesnt remove them from blame when the areas of delegation repeatedly make the same preventable mistakes. This team has suffered from self inflicted wounds on the field since the regimes inception.Id include lackluster LAUGHABLY conservative game management in that category.veteran teams,aging teams,inexperienced rebuilding teams all the same. He has all his guys now.This isnt sloppy seconds anymore. None of this has anything to do w being out talented or out flanked.Silly,careless,haphazard,arrogant downright DUMB penalties,turnovers,miscommunications,off the field,locker room drama. 4 years.Teams of many different complexions..the same Garbage. What a “culture”. As for the collaterol damage of a new head coach?The beauty is the offense is complete crap outside of Sam anyway while on their 3rd OC in 3 yrs so im not sure what damage would really transpire here.And the defense?Theyre all young players that have only been in 1 scheme;I have yet to see a single above average player flourish or benefit from this system despite a ton of resources invested. Frankly im not seeing much downside really.Im all for cohesion.I do think its a key to sustained success which is what we all want. The best thing for these young players is someone that can eliminate the self influcted wounds & raise the level of execution.Thats a tall task no doubt but Todd Bowles is most definitely not the guy.Its the same mistakes over & over
Unless you've had a private conversation with Hue Jackson, you don't know that. Even before Taylor got the concussion, he was not effective. Jackson could have had plans to play Mayfield if Taylor struggled, or may have even had plans to play him some regardless of how Taylor played. Comparing the #1 pick in the draft who's backing up a JAG at QB to JAGs who backup their teams' starters, is ridiculous and more than a little dumb.
Huh? What winning environment has Bowels instilled? The Jets have to bring in youth with talent. They still have a patched up OL, and no one they can go to that can get them a sack. Maccagnan drafts are looking mighty sketchy right now. His first draft is down to one player and that was only 4 years ago.
Even the fact that Bowles could not adjust on the fly, aka "in-game adjustments", not even slightly, is an indictment. The writing is on the wall, we all know what we are getting from Bowles and I literally feel like I am wasting my life away watching him coach my favorite team for 3 hours every sunday. He is god-awful. I can barely even get excited with this guy as the coach and that sucks, 4 years of wasted, uninspired shitty football.
There you go again. Now you're talking about "blame/glory" when the topic at hand is RESPONSIBILITY! Try to stay on topic, and if you think that posting a random link to a three year old conversation on Reddit by a bunch of mopes talking about what a coach does during a game reflects his total responsibility you're nuttier than I thought. Once again, for the slow learners: The head coach is responsible for everything done by the coaching staff and players - before, during and after the games.
The last successful figurehead coach may have been Jim Lee Howell of the Giants (1954-60). For most of that time, he had Vince Lombardi as his OC and Tom Landry as his DC. When asked what his function was, Howell said, "I just make sure the footballs have air in 'em." Probably an accurate statement.
Spot on! It also shows how little he knows about a symphony orchestra and what a conductor's responsibilities are. Owners don't see things the way he does. Rest assured. You're wasting your time and energy trying to teach him anything.
