Jamal Adams... (Merged)

champ? That you?

 

I have always been surprised at how hated Revis is for wanting to get paid, I truly do not understand what is so wrong with being properly compensated. Why do the fans take it so personally? Revis’ contract was never going to inhibit the Jets from being a good team. There were numerous other factors that led to the decline of the team, and paying Revis was not one of them. Revis got paid what he wanted in New England, and do the fans hate him there? Did he stop them from winning a championship?

 

Frankly I’m so exhausted by Jets fans “entitlement” to feeling like they are “suffering” or “downtrodden.”

Are you suffering when buy a lottery ticket and don’t win? What if you do it for years? Of course not. Either enjoy the scratch off or stop buying them. Having your team be a winning franchise is not some kind of human right written into the constitution. It’s just luck, and no one says glyph have to play the game.

That is all.

 

I think it has more to do with the principle of, "honor the contract that you agreed to in the first place". Don't sign the first time if you in two years you want to rip it up and redo it than it does with him being paid a lot of money.

 

I didn’t hate Revis for wanting to get paid, I did dislike him though for how he behaved trying to get paid. He would’ve been paid and been an all time Jet because he was a great player, an all time great player. The holdout and constant whining just made him seem like he only cared about being paid, which understandably doesn’t sit will with average folks who live and die with the team.

What I don’t understand is the hate for Jamal Adams who has been nothing but a great Jet and plays the game harder than anyone that’s possibly ever worn the green and white but certainly anyone since he has been drafted. If the Jets has 52 other players that cared about winning as much as he does they’d have won some championships already.

With that said I’d consider trading him if they got a godfather offer but anything less than that and he should be resigned.

 

That original evaluation where you called him soft and made a comparison to Milliner!!!!???

 

Boy there’s a lot to unpack here. First off your original evaluation was one of the most embarrassing posts I’ve ever seen here so I’m glad you realize now you were maybe a weeeee bit off. Second, on what planet is Buffalo a big play offense? If Buffalo is then the Giants are, and Jamal absolutely dominated that game. Last year Jamal had a fantastic two games against Gronk If I remember correctly. Third... he’s first team all pro. I think a lot of people think he’s great. It’s not some absurd theory being pushed by home Jet fans. It’s just common sense.

 

Revis took big bonuses and guaranteed money. He was effectively paid for multiple seasons and held out after he had already been paid. He completely manipulated the system.

Revis made over 124 million in 12 years. Out of that pile of cash over 50 million were in bonuses including 15 million in signing bonuses.

Lets suppose we give Adams a 5 year deal at 15 million per. We guarantee him 50 million with a signing bonus of 20 million. We front load the deal so we can reduce his cap hit in year 3,4 and 5. He decides to hold out after the front loaded part has been paid. Is he maximizing his value or welching on a contract?

 

Is Safety the most valued position on a Defense, of course not. But a Hybrid SS like Jamal is evolving as a nice chess piece for exotic Defenses that use multiple fronts (were not a base defense type of team or league anymore). He is also one of the best at his position over the past 2 years, he's DEVELOPING. Opposing teams need to account for him. Revis was the last guy we had like that and we need more game changers like him.

Contractually, Jamal needs to play out his rookie deal or at least get a deal done mid season. I'm personally not a fan of his chest bumping, look at me persona- but I'm also a middle class white guy in his 40's. However, he does seem to have a strong work ethic, take pride in his craft and LOVES TO WIN.

I'd like to see this guy be in Green and white for the next 3-5 years and hopefully we can pay him and make it somewhat team friendly as we will have Sam and our future franchise WR and or LT to pay in 4-5 years.

 

Don’t teams get to do just that? That’s exactly what cutting a player is.

 

I don’t remember constant whining from Revis. What specifically are you referring to?

 

You are not always paid bonuses for future years of work. Just because they are reflected on the salary cap in that way does not necessarily mean they are viewed that way by players or teams. There are multiple types of bonus’ as well, and none of them mean exactly the same thing.

Dollar amount per season is often bogus and used by agents to make their clients feel important when new contracts are signed. The truth is when you sign a deal, fully guaranteed money Is the only thing that really matters, and is reflective of the value of the deal. You can also look at the annual value once the deal ends.

Revis was effectively paid $10,728,586.5 per year over the course of his 11 years in the league. By all accounts for a player in his era who performed at his level, that is not an ultra high amount.

For comparison, Patrick Peterson will be at $9,442,814.7 per year over a 10 year career. Considering Peterson is so close and not considered to be money hungry, it shows you more about how the team valued him and didn’t make him jump through so many hoops for proper compensation.

 

Revis was never dissed by the Jets. He was a great player and as mercenary a player who ever played here. Peterson is still playing the cap went up. He never blew out his knee. He's been the best CB in the league for years now and still averages 10% less than Revis. Revis got more guaranteed money than he ever deserved. He took the up front money and used the discounted years to fuck the team over.

In Revis's case you're wrong. He got the guaranteed money and still held out.

 

His uncle was a huge factor here. He convinced Revis that nothing but his compensation mattered in the end and he should get every last penny he could along the way.

Mevis really was what the Jets dealt with for half a decade before they finally got wise and cut ties in the trade. Then Woody Johnson got taken like a payday sucker on the last deal.

Revis was a great CB but it is a fantasy of the highest order that franchise CB's exist at all. Even QB's aren't worth the top of the market contract, however a $30M QB will help a team win more than a $15M CB. It's just a matter of touches effected in that equation. Neither of them is likely to ever win a championship though.

 

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Well explained, you must be losing your touch

 

One can be can be kooky and coherent at the same time.

 

And away... we... go.