Jamal Adams... (Merged)

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  1. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    With all of the holes on this team, it's sort of a no brainer to trade Jamal Adams for a first and a third. I still maintain that he's a good player, not a great player. He doesn't disrupt the passing game when in coverage. He's an exceptional blitzer and he's a pretty good man to man cover safety on tightends. But I think it's more replaceable than most think. And the return value (if it's multiple picks) is worth it.
     
  2. The Dark Knight

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    The thing is, Adams is great, but he can't do it all himself. He has played at an all-pro level the last 2 years and the Jets have 8 wins. I am not sure what Douglas' strategy is, but it could include trading Adams and Bell, who are 2 of the Jets best players. At this point, you can't blame Douglas if he decides to blow it all up besides Sam.
     
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  3. ColoradoContrails

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    He's a great Safety, but Safeties don't win SBs. If they get the right offer, they have to consider trading him. They have too many gaping holes that need to be filled with premium picks and he would supply a couple of them for sure.
     
  4. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    Ed reed
    Troy polomalu
    Rodney Harrison
    Ronnie Lott
    Steve Atwater
    All disagree with this premise.
     
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  5. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The top two also had elite pass rushers for the majorities of their career, and excelled in causing turnovers. The year Reed didn't have an elite pass rusher (his rookie year), he picked off five balls. There's no doubt they were great players, but let's not act like they were the center pieces of those defenses.

    Can Adams be those players? I don't have enough confidence in that to sink $16 million per year into him because I don't think he causes enough turnovers. He's a really good player. I just don't think he's a generational talent like Reed and Polamalu were. And they still weren't the most important players on their defenses.
     
  6. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Dude he's in his third year how old is he now 23? 24?

    What you're seeing is only the beginning. When Adams reaches his prime years barring injury he'll be one of the best players the NFL has ever seen.

    Adams is a very very rare player. Players like him don't come around often at any position.
     
  7. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Never trade away a great player for draft picks. Especially with the Jets track record of drafting players.

    The entire point of drafting is hoping to get a player like Adams. We get him then trade him away to go back to playing the pick a player game. It's madness.

    Sign Adams long term. Do a much better job with the picks and free agency.
     
  8. WarriorRB28

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    Bell isn't one of our best players.
     
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  9. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Adams is 100% faking this injury. He knows he has a big contract coming up and doesn't want risk further injury on a shit team.
     
  10. WarriorRB28

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    I'll be shocked if he doesn't give it a go anyway, plays through it.

    It'd take a broken leg or a torn ACL something serious SERIOUS to keep this guy out of the lineup. Watching him, hearing him speak I get the impression he's that kinda guy.

    Ahem unlike certain players I will not name at this time.
     
  11. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The shelf life of safeties is a bit longer than other positions but you act like non-quarterbacks hit their stride when they're 30. This isn't the MLB or NBA. Yes, he does still have good years ahead of him but that'll also be as one of the highest paid players in the league.

    It's all about how you feel a team should be constructed. Adams is a dynamic blitzer, a decent to good cover guy on tightends, an average at best open field tackler, and a poor robber zone safety. You may think he's worth the richest safety contract in NFL history. I'd rather have two or three premium picks to rebuild the rest of the team.


    like non-quarterbacks reallll
     
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  12. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Adams is no Ed Reed.

    he may be on par with some of those other guys, but they won because they played with some of the greatest QBs of all time. Brady, Montana, Elway, Rapelisberger
     
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    Well, let’s hope Adams has that in common with those guys too.
     
  14. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Is he playing today?

    I'd like to see him give it a go.
     
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    So what? He's earned it.

    It's a silly argument.

    Why spend a top 10 pick on a player if five years later you're not going to be willing to pay him even if he is what you hope he is on draft day?

    There is NO QUESTION at all that Adams has held up his end of the bargain as a player selected in the top 10.

    And remember they passed up Mahommes to select him.

    This shouldn't even be a question. Re-sign him.
     
  16. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    The return value is worth more to this franchise, in rebuilding mode, than Adams is at $18 million per year. In my eyes at least. Landon Collins on the Redskins is a run stopping safety on a bad team making an absurd amount of money. And he was talked about as a DPOY candidate at one point with he Giants a couple years ago.

    Gimme a first and a third and let me build the team around the one player that can create sustained success for this franchise (Darnold).

    You can make an argument that we need 6 new starters on offense next year.
     
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  17. HomeoftheJets

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    No he's faking an injury.
     
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  18. FJF

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    No
     
  19. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Please don't lump in Jamal Adams with the next Warren Buffe err Quiincy Enunwa.

    Tee hee hee.

    Jamal Adams eats, sleeps, breathes football.
     
  20. WarriorRB28

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    You trust these idiots to hit on those picks?
     

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