Jake Steinberg: RB Goodson arrested for drug/weapon possession

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  1. JStokes

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    Yeah, no troll here--actually a lawyer :sad: hence the ability to converse logically. :lol:

    Here's a picture of me and my daughter at the Jets-Pitt game in December 2003 where we won 6-0 and Cumar rushed for 174 yards. Probably 5000 fans in the stadium that day. Trolls don't do that to their kids.

    Edit--can't post the pick because I don't have enough posts!

    ATTICA! ATTICA!

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  2. RuJFan

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    I didn't want to dwell too deep, but I guess I have to.

    Yes, I understand the difference. I agree that PO needs grounds to arrest both suspects so that the court can sort it out later. There are two big buts though.

    1st is related to this thread. I was responding to "sort it out or you both fry" comment. And related to that comment my murder scenario was pertinent.

    2nd is more complex.
    Arrest is a part of your record. It's researched by perspective employees and you have difficulty obtaining a job for example if you we're arrested. I know that it shouldn't be automatic disqualifier, but it often is. So now if you've never done anything wrong, but were arrested, you might not get your dream job.
    So on one hand, I agree that a cop should be able to arrest a suspect. For further investigation. After all arrest will not necessarily lead to conviction. On the other hand, even just an arrest can lead to severe problems. I don't have an answer to this.
     
  3. RuJFan

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    Probably not a good idea to post personal pictures anyway.
    The system should be good for you though: more arrests = more work :)
     
  4. blackssmagic

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    Okay, sorry to start a shit storm with constructive possession. But yes, I can and will charge everyone in the vehicle with the gun and the ammo. Now, if someone says hey officer its mine, then I am only charging that one person. Next no way in a million years am I getting the gun fingerprinted, I dont have that kind of time during my shift. As far as the ammo if the cop/courts want to be an ass each round is considered a charge, shit can add up real quick.

    As a few guys said I make the arrest and let the courts deal with the rest.
     
  5. blackssmagic

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    Another thing, in my entire career as a cop in Vegas I have only arrested a handful of quilty people, atleast if you ask them. No one ever tells the truth it seems like, in a case like this the gun fell out of the sky and landed in the car....
     
  6. JStokes

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    Too funny, my older brother was a homicide detective in Bed Stuy and my younger brother was a Nassau County cop and they often say they never arrested anyone guilty either :smile:

    I guess I've got a soft spot for police officers.


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  7. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Just know if the day ever comes that you arrest me I'm a quality guy.
     
  8. Bellows1

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    He's just explaining the law my friend, he didn't write it.
     
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  9. blackssmagic

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    Hahah....Barry, lets just say this, if you are in my sector beat than something is wrong and you are definitely guilty of something. You know DTAC and Bolden are the biggest shitholes in all of Vegas...
     
  10. blackssmagic

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    Cops normally get a bad rap, me I just treat everyone fair. I ticket who I have to and arrest who I have to. I let the situation to some degree dictate things, the peoples attitudes can determine a whole lot.
     
  11. JStokes

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    It's all about attitude.

    As I have explained to all of my kids--you have to show total respect and deference to police officers because initially they hold your fate in their hands--and because it's the right thing to do. The more respectful and deferrential you are, the more likely that you'll come away from any situatoin with the least amount of damage.

    But more importantly, you can't be totally hammered in a running vehicle parked in the middle of an interstate highway with an unregistered handgun loaded with hollow point bullets and a small bag of weed.


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  12. GQMartin

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    Yeah he's absolutely correct.

    Especially with drugs in NJ. If someone throws an eight ball of cocaine on the ground in the car. everyone gets charged with it.

    Something similar happened to my sister. dirtbag friends she was driving around with did it to her.
     
  13. egelband

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    regardless of legal issues, this guy is just too dumb for words. sayonara him, please.
     
  14. RuJFan

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    Shit... This is really off topic, but I have to respond.
    I have a very deep appreciation for the job you do. "Fair" is the keyword. Remember that the guy across of you is often just another human being. Being treats fairly is all I'm asking for. If I behave like an ass -- treat me like one, but if you see I'm a decent guy who you caught speeding 5 mp over limit -- give me a ticket if you want, but please drop the holier than thou act. Living in Jersey I met too many cops who pretend they are the salt of the earth while in reality they are just pieces of shit with a badge and a gun.

    And thank you for your service. I can feel a real guy when I see/talk to one.
     
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  15. RuJFan

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    I disagree. Jets are not wealthy enough in the RB department to just get rid of him. I want to wait for the outcome of th investigation. If he is cleared -- punish internally for idiotic judgement, but keep him. If he is involved beyond the stupidity -- cut his sorry ass and recover every penny you paid him. I don't want to have to explain to my son why our favorite team keeps a criminal on the roster.
     
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  16. JetsKickAss

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    Bullseye !!!

    Er...maybe not the best choice of word. LOL
     
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    Taking that initial approach with anyone can go a long way.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

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    Yup. When I was a kid, Id seen both my mom and dad get stopped. For speeding.

    My momwould immediately get irked., and get ticketed.

    My dad was always cool, amd never got a ticket.
     
  19. Don

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    Wow..if he is convicted it's a minimum MANDATORY sentence of 5 years.

    "If Goodson pleads guilty or is convicted of unlawful possession of a handgun, he will be subject to the Graves Act, a New Jersey law that carries a minimum mandatory sentence of three years. There is a chance the charges could be amended.

    New Jersey also has some of the strictest sentencing requirements in the nation for possession of hollow point bullets. If convicted of the charge, Goodson could face a five-year mandatory minimum sentence according to Jenny Carroll, an associate professor of law at Seton Hall Law School, where she teaches criminal law. The gun charge could be dropped for either Goodson or Evans if the police determine who it belonged to, but Carroll said both occupants of a vehicle can still be found guilty of charges relating to one gun or hollow point bullets under a clause called constructive possession."

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...dson-discusses-arrest-new-york-jets-officials
     
  20. Dierking

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    That was just outside of Barstow, correct?
     

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