Jabba's Updated 2 RD Mock Draft (3-1-10)

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  1. TheCoolerGlennFoley

    TheCoolerGlennFoley Well-Known Member

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    Couple thoughts:

    I can't see San Fran taking Bryant after Crabtree last year. In the first 2 rounds they have to take a defensive back at some point.

    I don't think Colt McCoy is a 2nd round prospect, let alone first pick of the 2nd round type player. I think that's a likely scenario for the Rams to take a QB later, but I think even if McCoy is their guy he'll be around in the 3rd.

    Hard to believe Shanahan would pass up Charles Brown in the 2nd round.
     
  2. 624

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    Wilson allowed 1 TD all season, so the coverage skills are there. He is great at blitzing, which we all know Rex loves in his corners, and he is an elite PR. We haven't had a guy with the threat of taking a punt to the house in years.
     
  3. Hobbes3259

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    Count me in with the Cody group.

    You can't coach 360 Lbs....

    Also, with Jenkins getting older, you need ot spell him a bit more, if you plan on him lasting 18 games.

    And on the occasion that you lined up 4/3 with Jenkins and Cody inside...
    you'd have to create a mismatch on the edge.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    It's HUGE position change. Especially for someone that's barely 6'2 and weighs 255 pounds.

    Hughes wouldn't be able to take up any space.

    3-4 DEs don't rush the passer, they take up space.
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    I guess we weren't watching the same game?

    Kyle Wilson is the best corner on the west coast. I've been saying that since around October.

    You didn't see him in those videos because he was doing his job.

    I've watched him consistently dominate for years.

    He's one of the best return specialists that I've ever seen...which is a plus.
     
  6. Harpua

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    I'll back you on that on MrE. Hughes is not in any way, shape, or form able to handle the duites of a 3-4 end. He'd be an OLB in any style of that scheme. 3-4 ends need to be tackle sized space earters first and foremost.
     
  7. FJF

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    uh,you mean 19 games,don't you?
     
  8. Jabba the Jet

    Jabba the Jet New Member

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    I LIKE IT

    I'm a BAP man (within reason) and I believe Mathews IS the BAP if the board fell this way, so I have no problem whatsoever with that selection. I don't think it would be recieved very well by the Jet faithful, because most fans usually fixate on their teams most glaring needs, so they probably want a CB, 34DE or 34OLB (elite edge rusher) with that pick, but I would love a Greene/Mathews combo with Leon as the scatback, and I definitely love the value at 29.

    Translation: You'll Get Boo'ed by the peanut gallery, but its a Good Pick :up:

    I don't love this pick in RD 2, but I don't hate it either. I think its a little early for Cam Thomas, but I do like him so I wouldn't mind reaching a little bit for a legit nose tackle, especially with no 3rd RD Pick.
     
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  9. Hobbes3259

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    No love for Cody at 29?
     
  10. Jabba the Jet

    Jabba the Jet New Member

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    I like the idea, Hobbes, as I said to MrE, I'm all for drafting a nose tackle, but I'm not a Mount Cody guy.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my DT's big, the bigger the better, but I like them to be thick/solid.

    I mean I know all big DT's have "some" lard on their bones, but this is ridiculous :eek:hmy:

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  11. Jabba the Jet

    Jabba the Jet New Member

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    Hobbes, I was answering your post (see above) while you typed this one
     
  12. Jets n Boys

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    Yeah, I agree with Mr. Electric. Colts would be dumb to draft RB in the first round in back to back years, especially when they have Joseph Addai.

    I don't want to pick on your selections, just giving my opinion. Its a pretty good trying to figure out the 32 teams needs and available selections at that particular spot, so good job there Jabba.

    Also, is Eric Berry overrated, or is he a top 5 this year? If so, he has to be one of the best safeties in a long time to come out of the draft.
     
  13. abyzmul

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    It sounds like he is a strong bastard, too. Imagine how much Revis could teach him about jamming a receiver at the line?
     
  14. Jabba the Jet

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    Nah that's okay, JnB, its a valid opinion and I appreciate the feedback, but let me ask you this question ... do you also agree with MrE that the Jets should take Mathews at 29 if the board fell this way?

    If so, who do you think is better, Shonn Greene & Leon Washington or Joseph Addai & Donald Brown?

    If its the former, and I absolutely believe that it is, then why is Mathews a good pick for the Jets at 29 but a bad pick for the Colts at 31?

    I realize that question is better addressed to MrE, but assuming you agree with Mathews to the Jets?
     
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    Because we were 1st in rushing attempts last year, while the Colts were 31st. Greene and Washington will get a much bigger beating over the year and they already have injury concerns.
     
  16. Mr Electric

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    I don't think Greene or Washington could do what Addai has done for the Colts' offense.

    Joseph Addai's value in that scheme is as a pass blocker. He's arguably the best in the game.

    Donald Brown is a very dangerous receiver. I want to give him at least another season to pick up Peyton Manning's complicated offense.

    Ryan Mathews fits into what the Jets are trying to do: ground and pound. The Colts are all about draws and stretch plays, while the Jets just want to beat defenses to death.

    ...and this too.
     
  17. Jabba the Jet

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    I understand that, 624, but don't you think the Colts would be a little more balnanced on offense if they had a legit feature back like Shonn Greene?

    I mean I'm sure they would still be pass heavy because that's what they do, but so did John Elway until he finally got a Terrell Davis ... not that I expect the Colts to make the transition to a run heavy offense, but I do think they could achieve a little more balance if they had a feature back like Greene, and Ryan Mathews does look like a feature back

    So here's my point ...

    The Jets already have a legit feature back in Shonn Greene, yet its been observed that perhaps the Jets should draft another one (Ryan Mathews) if the board fell this way, and I agreed that would be the value pick at 29 as well (if the board fell this way).

    Conversely the Colts do not even have a feature back like Greene .. Addai is not in his class, nor is Donald Brown .. so if its a good pick at 29 for a team that already has a feature back, how could it be a bad pick at 31 for a team that doesn't?
     
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  18. Jabba the Jet

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    Yeah but don't you think that has a little something to do with why the Colts rank next to dead last in rushing, because the best thing you can say about their #1 RB is he's a "terrific blocker"

    i.e. if the best thing you can say about your #1 RB is he's a terrific blocker, you don't have a #1 RB

    I mean if he was a "terrific runner", maybe they would rank oh say 20th in rush attempts as opposed to 31?
     
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  19. Mr Electric

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    The Colts don't need a feature back. That's just not what they do.

    Addai ran for over 800 yards and 10 TDs. That's pretty good for a guy that plays in a pass happy scheme and behind a smallish offensive line.
     
  20. Hobbes3259

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    Great Tits!

    You gotta admit...It takes a MANLY man, to take off his shirt in public with that look!
     

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