I know exactly what you mean. You don't like Rex Ryan and hold him to a different standard than any other coach; you just look for things to complain about.
What the hell do you think 3 more wins do? They still clean house. All the difference is we get a lower draft pick. Even according to you Idzik made this team 1 game worse then 2013. Bottom line the Jets talent overall sucked last season. Thanks to Idzik.
Fair enough... I give you respect for saying it. And I'm rooting for Geno to do well just like I did for Sanchez, Favre, Pennington, and all the other guys who have played QB for the Jets since 1985.
No, same standard. Don't have 4 straight losing seasons, be able to adjust mid-game, Adjust to your player's strengths, understand how to use timeouts and clock management, don't put a target on your team's back by being a loud mouth joke, Progress as a coach after 6 seasons, pretty simple things. I don't get how Rex supporters can't see any of that.
there were no consecutive losing seasons, they adjusted all the time, he got the most out of his player's strengths, and no game was ever won or lost by a presser. i'll give you this.....things weren't always well prepared and buttoned up enough. i wanted to see more organization and attention to detail. but most of the other criticism i see on this board (your post included) has as much hot air as a Rex pre-game presser. Buffalo has majorly upgraded their coaching situation, and they will be tough to beat this year.
This thought process is incorrect. Nice of you to be kind to Rex, but you are seeing things wrong, as anyone who defends him does. I think it stems from all the bad seasons/coaches the Jets fans have watched and the success from 2009/2010. I felt the same until 2012. Don't get me wrong, Rex is a top defensive coach. The #1 Defensive Coordinator in the NFL. He has no business being a Head Coach though. Pretty simple to see too.
so simple to see, yet you cannot identify any specific deficiencies. Ralebird was correct, you just don't like him. i think his personality has turned people off for whatever reasons, and they grasp at straws to try to explain how that makes him a bad coach.
I wonder who will take the fall if all the bravado doesn't pay off in Buffalo. GM? OC? DC? QB? Some combination that does not include the HC? My guess is the OC will have a target on his back by week 4 along with the starting QB.
I just named a bunch. You just seem to disagree. Do you watch the games? There really doesn't need to be any more proof than that. You are right, I said 4 losing seasons in a row, but technically (8-8) does not count as losing. However, 2011's (8-8) was an epic collapse and we all know 2013's (8-8) was not a representation of the team. 2 impressive wins out of 8 is nothing special. People will argue the team was bad so winning 8 games shows Rex is a good coach, but the games they won (besides Patriots/Saints) were not impressive to me. Falcons seemed impressive at the time, but they fell apart. So from 2011-2014 Rex went a combined (26-38). Is that good to you and worthy of keeping his job? No way. Rex really does not adjust either. I don't know how you think he does. That is why some games the Jets look terrible. He had 1 plan and it failed. Good coaches have plenty of ideas and can adjust when they need to. Now let's talk about the offense. He has no clue at all. He has hurt his QB's like Sanchez or Geno in the process too. Finally, after going an embarrassing (26-38) the last 4 years and getting fired, he continues to run his mouth and call himself a "winner" in Buffalo now. You are right though, I don't like the guy. I don't see how anyone could. He is full of crap. It's one thing to talk the talk, but if you don't walk the walk, you are a joke.
I have never taken up for his play. All I have said you don't give up on a player after 2 years. Yes I'm a Geno fan but I'm a Jets fan first. I'll be the first to say Geno got to go if he doesn't play good this season. Us Geno supporters don't have anymore excuses if he doesn't take a big step this season. He got talent around him and its his 3rd year so it time he shows he can or can't starter in this league.
i could easily counter every point (especially regarding the 2013 season, yeesh are you off base there). however, it wouldn't matter, as what really bothers you is your last sentence. so focusing on that for a second.......what type of 'talk' was there last year? should he have been publicly pessimistic? would more guarded or cliche answers in pressers have resulted in more wins? our roster against that schedule was destined to fail. this is why people were so pissed at Idzik last offseason......me included. he did nothing for our present or future. the coaches aren't absolved of blame, as there is plenty to go around, but the results weren't going to be dramatically different regardless of who was coaching. I'm fine that we moved on, as change was needed at this point. but i'm not going to pretend the guy was terrible now that he's in Buffalo..
The Jets lost 12 games last year because Rex gave up on the season. That's the only thing that explains the Jets playing well in the rivalry matchups and sucking vs everybody else. Somebody wrote a piece after the second Patriots game last year about how the Jets players were actively involved on the sidelines on every play, glued to the action like it was the Super Bowl. On a well-coached team that's what happens 90% of the time, not 20%. There was also the lack of accountability that permeated the roster. That's a direct indictment of the head coach. Too many penalties. Players getting tossed out of games. Players being late for and missing meetings entirely and no consequences involved for them. Then you had the failure to identify talent and coach it up. The Jets actually had some decent talent on the roster at CB last year. Nothing special at all but by the end of the season the Jet's pass defense was in the upper third of the league. Who did Rex go with out of the gate? A 4.60 safety at CB who had never played the position before. He did this over the guys who actually had decent seasons in the end. It was like Rex was throwing darts for a lot of the season and hoping he hit something in the process. When Pete Carroll had 5th and 6th rounders at CB he turned them into good players. When Rex was confronted with that he went to a personal favorite who wasn't suited to play the position instead.
All 3 of our QBs maybe all 4 are better than the shit they have in Buffalo. Rex is a bottom 5 HC in the NFL. And there is no question of that. He is completely awful as a HC and amazingly overrated as a DC. So glad the loser blowhard is no longer a Jet. He stayed 2 more years than he should have. Our QB situation was bad BECAUSE of Rex and the worst coaching staff in the NFL Rex is completely horrible. Idzik had the right concepts but just did not understand football talent. Glad he is gone too,
Yeah, good discussion. Have a good day, man. We clearly see things differently, but we will see how things play out not only in Buffalo, but here with the Jets now. A change had to be made though.
It just wasnt a good fit. Rex wore out his welcome, I think that was obvious. I think he is a very good football mind, but his act can wear thin. I expect his Bills run to have a similar trajectory to the Jets run. I think he'll have a few good years to start off, and we'll see him slowly fall off. I always maintain that Idzik had a really nice plan, but he implemented it miserably. I have always wanted the Jets to build through the draft, and Idzik put them in position to do just that. I would have loved to have seen what Macagagnan would have done with 12 picks. I have little doubt Bridgewater or Carr would be a Jet. They clearly werent on the same page. Idzik had a long term, rebuilding plan. Rex needed to win now. The blame isnt just on one guy.
Rex truly is overrated - his defensive ideas were pretty awful towards the end. That included having Coples jam receivers, using Saalim Hakim has a blitzer, making AA a CB. A lot of bad ideas. Didn't get better as an offensive coach, didn't really instill the confidence on that side of the ball. Idzik had a "great" plan to build through the draft, too bad he totally sucks when it comes to putting in the draft card. Idzik was an awful GM. Glad they are both gone.
To a simple mind. You do realize that this conversation began with your criticizing of a head coach for making positive statements about his team, right?
