It was 1-2 before all the injuries and we are 2-1 if Chrebet holds onto a TD pas that would have beaten jax.
We win 3 or 4 more games this year if someone holds onto a ball makes a kick does something. Clemens would have two more wins if someone held onto a pass. You rarely make excusses like that.
We'd have a couple of more wins if Clemens wasn't awful for 3+ qtrs in the game he has started too. Chad went back into the jax game w/ a torn rotator cuff, his career on the line, and he led us to the tying FG and it should have been a winning TD if Chrebet holds on.
What does Chad going back out with a torn rotator cuff have to do with the fact that our team was unprepared to play, the veterans on the team including the OL got a free pass in the off season and Chad and Fiedler were killed in the first 3 games of the season and so was Curtis but that didn't stop Herm from shutting him down either and Chrebet should never have been cleared to play football in 05, maybe that had something to do with the fact that a guy who never dropped passes dropped that one?
Hey slick...Cowher went 12 years as a HC w/o a SB....So in year 2 you want to kick out Mangini? I can see it now... BC is 0-11 in bring a SB trophy to hte NY/NJ/CT metro area:lol:
That was ONE game! That happens alot, a few years ago NE lost 30-3 or something liek that in week 1 then bounced back and won a SB. We bounced back from the KC debacle and beat Miami then nearly beat an 12 win jax team before we lost our top 2 QBs then began losing everyone else.
Bad teams nearly beat good teams at home all the time. That's not a reflection that the team is good or that the coaches are good that's reality in a league of mediocrity. That same Jacksonville team lost to the Pats 28 to 3 in the first round of the playoffs. The Jags were a 12 and 4 team based on a mediocre league not because they were some elite team. The same Pats team was beat in Denver the following week. Jacksonville has proven time and again to be a highly over rated team as has Miami.
Who cares if they were overrated? they still wn 12 games, we wound up winning 4. Healthy against jax a year later we lost 41-0.
Again which means what? We went to the playoffs last year Jax didn't. We had a lossing record when the injuries happened the only team we beat was Miami who was terrible at the begining of the 05 season. They were 3 and 7 befor they ended up turning their season around. We were manhandled at the LOS in 05 in the first 3 games and it was the primary reason we had all the injuries. We were being manhandled at the LOS last year and this year the difference is our players are in shape do to off season required work outs and a real training camp.
Cowher got to the Super Bowl in his 3rd season after a 13 year absence for the Steelers. He lost to the best of the Cowboys dynasty teams.
We still were 1-2 and easily could have been 2-1. We were far from done, if healthy we would have ended up around 10 wins again. That "real training camp" is working wonders, sin't it? we have a HEALTHY tem that stinks and you'd think w/ the "real training camp" they wouldn't fade in the 4th qtr every game yet they have. Actually it was his 4th year(and Pitt had gone 16 years btw SBs) and he lost to the WORST of the Cowboys dynasty teams. '92 and '93 were far superior to '95- '95 wasn't even clsoe to those other 2.
You're right it was his 4th season, he got to the AFC championship game his 3rd season. The 1995 edition of the Cowboys had Deion Sanders in the defensive backfield and is widely considered the best of their 3 super bowl winners. The NFL had started to catchup to the Cowboys at that point after a half decade of getting stomped by them and the 49ers and the salary cap era was upon the league. To do what the Cowboys did that last season was really amazing.
I think you are the only one who considers the '95 Cowboys better than '92 and '93. They weren't even close to '92 and '93, just start w/ the coaching and the awful Barry Switzer. They were 13-3 in '92 then 12-4 in '93 and '95 but they started out w/ Emmitt or the first 2 games going 0-2 in '93 or else they would ahve been 13-3, 14-2. In '95 they got swept by a 6 win Wash team, got crushed by SF and lost at phily when Switzer went on 4th and 1 at his own 30. The '92 and '93 teams would have crushed the '95 team.
Again U misread me which is totally normal for U. Must be that fine Florida educational system I guess. All I said is Woody is way to cheap to hire in BC. That was it plain & simple which was for those who were suggesting his hiring
Boomer Esiason says Cowher doesn't want to coach next year, he thinks the only way Cowher doesn't sit out another year is if Carolina fires Fox and throws a boatload of money at him. Cowher would be the only hire that would even remotely make sense to give up on Mangini and Tannenbaum for. I think we should stick with Mangini no matter what but without Cowher out as an option there are no other options that make sense. All this talk is probably pointless anyway as it doesn't seem like Woody has any plans on giving up on the young promising duo after one bad season.
The problem here is that these guys just don't grow on trees. When Herm left, the best "established" coach looking for work was Mike Tice. Not a great option if you ask me. Just curious - who would you have liked the Jets to hire as coach after Herm left that was available? Also, if that coach wouldn't run the whole show - who would you have hired for GM?
Woody will NEVER/EVER I will repeat that NEVER/EVER pay the money that BC will demand so he NEVER was nor will he ever be a option.
There's no guarantee that Cowher would come here no matter how much money was thrown at him. In fact, I would say it's highly unlikely that Cowher would come here if given total control and the highest salary out there. If anything, he will wind up in Carolina. Also in regard to Woody, he did open the bank account up for Parcells to stay when he bought the team. He would have given him anything. But the mighty Tuna wanted to retire (again) and turned him down. Then at the recommendation of the Tuna, he hired Bradway. It's funny - a lot of people around here blame Woody for hiring Bradway in the first place- but can you really blame a new owner for taking the recommendation of such an immortal football god as Parcells? Also, Belifraud left town the day after he was hired as HC by Woody. I guess that's his fault too. Going back a few years, GM Steinberg tried to hire Holmgren, but he turned us down because he wanted to stay on the West coast. It seems that alot of people around here think that all you have to do is throw money at a Parcells, or Jimmy Johnson type and they're going to come running. It just doesn't happen like that - there are a lot of factors involved.
I'd have cleaned house after 2005 and looked for somebody with significant experience to GM the team long-term. That might have been an ex-coach with experience at winning in the NFL, like Jimmy Johnson or Mike Ditka. It might have been a current coach who had experience building a winning team, like Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer. It might have been a college coach of proven long-standing ability to build a winning program like Bob Stoops. That would have been the type of GM I'd have wanted given the Jets history of doing poorly with no-name front office personnel. I'd have let him hire his coach and that coach hire his staff. I'd have made only one condition in the whole process: that Mike Westhoff be retained as Special Teams/Assistant Head Coach when the dust settled.
Mike Ditka??? The same guy who traded away his entire draft for Ricky Williams? You've stated here how upset you are that Tanny traded up to get Revis and Harris, yet you'd want to hire a guy that traded away his entire draft for one player? That doesn't make any sense. Ditka did a terrible job with the Saints. Enough said on him. JJ - he won in a different era of the NFL. Doesn't mean he would have success in todays NFL. Look how good Gibbs is doing after a long absence. Cowher - As I said in another post, it's highly unlikely he would ever come here. Certainly he wouldn't have quit the Steelers to come here. He wasn't an available option when we hired Tanny and Manny. Schott - He can't win playoff games. He went 14-2, lost in the 1st round, and then got fired. You can argue that the SD FO are idiots, but you still got to wonder what was going on behind the scenes. It certainly would be a blemish when considering him GM material. Also, a good HC doesn't necessarily equate to a good GM and vice versa. College guys to the pros and vice versa has had mixed results. Bo S. built a powerhouse in Miami but flopped in DC. Petey Carroll built a championship in USC - would you hire him? College programs and Pro programs are quite different and I would say you'd be taking a chance here. Look at the Tuna. I think the gereral concensus would be that he was an average at best GM (I think he was sub-par myself). Yet he's a hall of fame coach. Also, as I stated in another post, throwing money at these big names won't necessarily mean they will come here. I can't fault Woody for taking a chance at striking gold with the young FO given their pedigrees and what was available at the time.
