It’s always the same it’s just a shame that’s all

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  1. MDJets

    MDJets Well-Known Member

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    While I agree there were some good moments, played probably 1 good quarter out of 4. Of course there are going to be some good moments especially when you are expecting the worst. We moved the ball into Baltimore’s territory like 6 times, a good sign but managed only 2 TDS 13 points. We still lost by 21. I want good moments when we score and win.
     
  2. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Luck's career was marred and shortened, but if he had that career on the Jets, he'd be the second-best QB in Jets history. We're on pace to ruin Darnold long before he ever gets to that point, if he's even capable of getting to that point.
     
  3. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Chris has already said that Gase will return next year. Whether he really meant it is anyone's guess.
     
  4. jilozzo

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    looks like a 5-11 gem this year.

    unfortunately me thinks 5-11 will look good next year.
     
  5. LAJet

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    My postmortem analysis.
    A team lives and dies by the capability of a good GM to staff it with talent. The GM in my view is the ultimate resource provider, feeding the pipeline with consistent above average draft selections to match the identity of a winning team. A great leader knows how to select talent and great talent WANTS to be part of a team with a great leader.
    I think it is fair to say we have completely failed at the very heart of what makes a good team, nurturing instead a history of incompetent GMs, completely decoupled from the selection of equally weak HCs.
    Common denominator you ask? Well, both independently and personally selected by ownership with zero hands-on NFL knowledge, and unable to accept that they were not qualified to make those selections for starters. Never mind managing the intricacies and complexities needed to set fort a long term team identity and apply it consistently via the GM and HC.
    If that wasn't bad enough, when WJ finally saw the light and seek help from the experts, he unfortunately paid the wrong consulting firm to help him. That created the perfect storm. I would argue that the absolute biggest nail on the coffin was driven by the two complete imbeciles that selected Mac as our GM.
    Make no mistake, Mac did far more harm than that good, IMO destroying this franchise by a number of selections that did not fit the current coaching scheme, overloading a position of no need, forcing us to fit square pegs on round holes, completely disregarding crucial positions in the draft year after year, and just plain over reaching for bad prospects. Building thru the trenches was thrown out the window and the BPA concept was forced down our throats. Unfortunately Mac was incapable to know who was BPA for our team needs.
    If that wasn't bad enough, we chose to suffer thru another disjointed draft with Mac right after firing Todd. Take a sharp stick and stick it in the Jets eyes. The moment Gase arrived he wanted to undo as much as he could of Mac free agency and was not even a participant in the draft picks. Result - We were completely fucked personnel wise in 2019. That is a fact.
    Probably the best strategic move by Gase was to get Mac fired and JD hired. Now it is all up to our GM to bring our true identity out and staff accordingly, in concert with the coaching schemes. And if Gase does not turn us into a winner, then we will see were the power is. My got says JD eventually will become the Head of football ops, hire a new coach, and keep the ownership out of the way.
    One can only hope.
     
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  6. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    For this team it's: "there's always next decade."
     
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  7. CotcheryFan

    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Next century. :eek:
     
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  8. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Thank god we're there already. It seems like we've relatively alternated decades of success vs. failures so we're pretty much set to lose two heart breaking AFC championship games at the end of the 2020's.
     
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  9. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Well, its better than 4-12... #Improvement
     
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    [​IMG]
    :p
     
  11. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    We all felt so great after beating the Cowboys.


    Then everybody else beat the Cowboys... :confused:
     
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  12. GreenFan15J

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    So what are the odds right now that this GM and Head Coach can put together a team that can make the playoffs next year? Or two years?

    I think right now given the players and the coaching staff we have, the odds are 100 to 1.

    That’s why if the Jets are not in the playoffs by January 2022, I’m selling my shitty PSLs.

    17 days and 2 years to go...
     
  13. Longsuffering88

    Longsuffering88 Well-Known Member

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    Wow
    You are the mark
    You are the target of the Johnsons

    all excuses
     
  14. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    We've got an optimist here, for the first time in like forever.
     
  15. Dierking

    Dierking Well-Known Member

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    “Jets line up in a standard pro set, Gee Barkum split out wide . . . .”
     
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    LogeSection2RowJ Well-Known Member

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    My buddy and I in elementary school back then would refer to Dave Herman as "E. Herman" as a joke since Marty would say (to our ears) "G. Barkum" when we knew Jerome was spelled with a "J". Later we realized that "Gee" was Barkum's nickname, not Marty screwing up his initial :p

    Growing up a Jets fan in suburban NJ, there weren't a whole lot of Jets fans in school class, and the team was so poor in those days we stuck together and had a lot of little jokes like that. Others included "Charlie Winner is loser" and our favorite fight slogan "Jets can win!!! ... with the points"
     
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  17. CBG

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    Let me slip this in here while its fresh in everyones mind = months from now when Free Agency rolls by and the draft is over and the New York Jets Ticket Reps contact you by e mail or phone , do your self a favor and delete the e mail immediately or hang up the phone is you made the mistake of answering the call. This way you can save yourself a lot of money and heart ache and I don't ask for much just maybe a thank you CBG will suffice
     
  18. JoeWalton

    JoeWalton Well-Known Member

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    What kind of loyal Jet fans are you people? Don't you know that you should warmly embrace and be extremely appreciative of the Jets perpetual mediocrity and unforced errors mentality? Now ship up or shape out, because no matter how improbable this sounds, one day during this century, you may experience how over-rated winning really is.
     
  19. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    and I highly doubt you or I will be alive when that happens...
     

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