Is this team, as currently constructed, a playoff quality team?

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Is this team, as currently constructed, a playoff quality team?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. STARoSCREAM

    STARoSCREAM Well-Known Member

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    I think the worst part of Quinns take is the 0-4 start prediction. We probably lose tothe Bengals, even though we beat them last year. The Steelers are always tough, but their QB is just as big of a question mark (if not bigger) than ours. The Browns, may not have Watson, and we would have to sell out to stop their run game for sure. And the Ravens are beatable, the problem with them is (obviously) Lamar and Andrews. Our LBs are a weakness that those 2 can exploit.

    Can we go 0-4? sure. We an also start 3-1. Although, realistically, 2-2 is very likely IMO
     
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  2. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I would be really pleasantly surprised if the Jets go 2-2 to start

    The Jets never win in Pittsburgh and honestly Big Ben was trash last season, hanging on by a thread. They could be better without him. Going into Cleveland on their home opener, Watson or no Watson, and coming out with a win will be difficult, I dont see it happening.

    So then to get to 2-2 you'd have to win both home games vs. good teams like Baltimore & Cincy. I believe it when I see it

    That should be the goal though. Split those 4. It is time to start winning
     
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  3. STARoSCREAM

    STARoSCREAM Well-Known Member

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    yeesh, didn't realize it was IN Pitt. But I don't believe Trubisky is an NFL Qb.

    Also, I did not mean that any of those games would be easy. But if you want to be a playoff quality team, you need to beat that level of team.
     
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  4. MoWilkBeast

    MoWilkBeast Well-Known Member

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    Well since you asked these are the things I think that need to happen for the potential playoff roster to be an actual playoff roster.

    1) ZW has to take a step and show that he is a genuine starter. Protect the ball like he did towards the end of his rookie season, make plays like he did at the start, not miss on anything like the number of gimme throws as well.
    2. At least 2 out of the 3 first round rookies have to play like they belong and genuinely contribute. They don't have to be immediate stars just add value and not be liabilities. WR and CB are difficult adjusts for rookies & JJII fell and has some question about his college production beyond last year. I haven't put this same requirement on Hall, RBs find the pro transition easier generally and he was the best in class. I think he'll make an impact. Not counting on anything much out of the others beyond occasional snaps and STs.
    3. The FAs have to be as advertised - good solid pros at least.
    4. The younger players have to develop. No sophomore slump plus the likes of Becton getting back to where we thought he'd be after his rookie season.
    5. No injuries to key players at key points - eg not facing the Bills with half the OL out.
    6. The coaching staff have to show growth too.

    I'm far from pessimistic but that's a lot to go right in one year. I'm not expecting it all to happen. If most of it does I'll be pretty happy because the team will be heading in the right direction.
     
  5. bleedgreen

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    I don't think its a lot. Any of the good NFL teams went through the same points. Very few QB are stars in their first year. Not allen, Not Brees. i could go on. Highly rated rookies on other teams turned out fine. Why not the jets? Why won't the free agents repeat or improve their performances? The highly rated/drafed second year players should develop. They do on other teams. Why not the jets? Injuries, well fate has to smile once in a while. Coaching, yes, its a mystery to me. my big unknown. None of them have any track record and last year did not impress. But they do have pedigrees so lets see.
     
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  6. ouchy

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    Also Pitts QB could very easily be Kenny Pickett. Maybe even his first start.
     
  7. STARoSCREAM

    STARoSCREAM Well-Known Member

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    Still, not worried about a rookie QB in a weak class

    (I am aware that he CAN come out on fire, we did that for Baker, but the odds are against him)
     
  8. ouchy

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    I meant it as a positive, catching a rookie early in his career.
     
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    Bills Over Jets Well-Known Member

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    Please explain how a team with a “middle of the pack qb” is going to win more games than teams with elite qbs like josh Allen, deshaun Watson, joe burrow, Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes, or even teams like the titans, raiders, Steelers, dolphins and patriots.
     
  10. Nyjets4eva

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    Very simple if ZW takes the next steps and leap from last year then Yes if not then No
     
  11. NYJetsO12

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    When you think about all these Threads and Coversations have one thing is common: they all take place in the imagination ..like " we should be able to beat so and so " or " how we can we not beat a vulnerable Raven or weak Pittsburgh team...?? nothing to do with play on the field , results or even stats, or Wilson showing his stuff

    To me it's all wishful thinking tbh

    It's just laughable that the mighty Jets were ranked second or third to last out of 32 teams in 2021 and now all of a sudden can be seriously taken ..really?

    Results do all the talking and I haven't even observed a Preseason game
     
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  12. Cman65

    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Hope springs eternal in the offseason. Look at it this way... We're undefeated so far in April and May and I can see that non-losing streak lasting all summer long!!
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Since summer ends in late September, does this mean we'll win a few in the season's first month for the first time since 2018?
     
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    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Looking at that schedule? Not a chance in Hell. :)
     
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    CotcheryFan 2018 ROTY Poster Award Winner

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    Better to keep expectations low and the team surprises us than expect a lot only to be let down.
     
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    Cman65 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Season over by Columbus Day? :)
     
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    Totally reasonable given how the last 2 seasons have gone. I'm hoping for a bit more.
     
  18. Noam

    Noam Well-Known Member

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    Woah meaningful games or game in October? Sign me up for that.
     
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  19. ouchy

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    I expect to start the season at least 2-2. Not sure what everyone else is seeing with our schedule that is so scary?

    Ravens at home. Love starting at home and we should be ready for them. They have as many new starters as we do and they will have crowd noise. Dumped their best WR during the draft.

    Browns at Cleveland, during a time when they will be in QB chaos, and an unhappy Baker (or worse) behind the line. Outside of Watson, their roster has gotten much worse.

    Bengals at home. We beat them here last year, and now we have much better corners, and hopefully a much better pass rush.

    Steelers in Pitt. Tribisky, Pickett, Rudolph, who's their QB? Do any of them scare you? This ain't your daddy's Steelers.

    IMO that division is going to be the weakest in the AFC.

    If were the team we think we are, we could, and probably should, start out at least 2-2 this year.
     
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  20. HomeoftheJets

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    The Ravens and Bengals are losses (lightning doesn't strike twice). Given Pittsburgh is on the road, it's a tossup. Cleveland is a loss if Watson plays, a win if Brissett plays, and probably a loss if Baker plays and isn't a total headcase. My prediction is a 1-3 start, though I think 2-2 is more likely than 0-4.
     
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