Many factors with that. Terrible quarterback performances every year. Shit talent all over the field. Piss poor offensive play calling. Bad drafting. Etc. Etc. Doesn't all fall on the head coach like many seem to claim.
I hope all the people sticking up for geno enjoy watching him throw into a crowd of defenders or make some other retarded decision every time he's under pressure.
Geno wasn't even that bad this game..we've rolled with Sanchez through shit storms way worse than Geno's performance.
Sure they do... especially in our situation. Again, what reason is there to bench Geno? We dont have serious playoff aspirations and Vick is not a long term awsner. it would be one thing if we had a Manziel/Hoyer thing, were both were potential long term options, but that isnt the case at all. You let Geno play all 16 games, and they you decide if he is worth keeping, demoting to backup, or moving on from completely. He hasnt had 1 full season under a single co-ordinator, benching him now would be irresponsible and nonsensical. What is gained by starting vick? a 7-9 season where we go into next year not knowing what geno is capable of?
Are you fucking serious? He threw a pick six on a screen. He threw a pick in the red zone and got us no points. He should have thrown about three other picks, one that was right to the defender but was dropped. Would have ended the game in a flash. Geno was fuckin terrible. That's a fact. There's no other way around it.
I meant corner actually but even then, it still matters for receiver. One WR was not going to make or break our receiving corps. They can just double team him and then we'd be screwed anyway since other than Kerley, everyone else is too inconsistent.
Having Geno throw 43 times is the problem. With Decker hurt, there's no way you should have the QB try and throw that much vs a Bears team that could not stop the run, specifically Ivory. The gameplan was piss poor, I don't know how you go in with that mindset to get away from what was working in the run.
I'm not defending Geno. and personally, im not sure he will ever be more then a average or worse starting QB. but the idea that you bench him makes no football sense. you have to at least find out what you have, and if he is capable of improving. the alternative in our situation doesnt make sense. We arent a playoff team with Vick, and we dont have another long term option to groom. letting Geno sink or swim is the best use of our reps at QB
Yes - watching Geno backpedal when pressure comes up the middle instead of rolling one way or the other, sliding for sack, running out of bounds for sacks, throwing jump balls, throwing no look screens, failing miserably in the red zone because he doesn't seem to have the ability to handle a short field at all. He does not give this team a better chance to win ... he is not and will not be the future of this franchise so don't throw the season way hoping a light that isn't their comes on.
What does Vick even do for us? As soon as he gets on the field he'll get hurt. So do you go to Simms?
Next week decides it..if Geno plays well and we win he earned himself a few more weeks. But if we go to 1-3 with SD, DEN and NE coming up its going to be Vick time.
Brought in Patterson but he went AWOL. I agree I wanted to see them get Vontae Davis but he reupped early with IND.
kerley is a decent player. he isnt that good. when you go down 14-0 the gameplan kind of goes out the window. We had run 2 offensive players prior to being down 2-0... a run play and a screen play.
But what makes you think benching him wouldn't benefit him? I'm not saying it would, but how do you know it wouldn't? He has been terrible. He was a HUGE part of the loss today, if not the main reason for it. He doesn't throw a pick 6, we win this game. He doesn't throw a pick in the red zone, we win this game. How long do you continue losing games because of him until you decide to move on? This is year two. He had an entire offseason and an entire training camp. How is he still making the same mistakes? Put Vick in and let Geno ride the bench. Maybe it'll wake him up.
I just want a franchise QB. Vick has nothing left for the future. It would just be a waste of time. Geno still has no receivers. These guys just cant get open without a #1 receiver like Decker spreading the field. Nelson, Salas, Salim, Cumberland. These guys are just not good.
With the targets on the team, it requires him to do something he should not be doing.....playing superman and carrying the team on his back. Geno is not ready for that. We should have pounded this Bears team, the OLine got devoured vs the Bears when running the ball in the 1st half when it really should not have. Throwing over 30 attempts is pushing it, 40 is asking for it. Guys like Nelson and Cumberland just do not get separation on a consistent basis, which is why we drafted guys they hoped to replace them in Shaq Evans and Amaro.
