you cant rebuild when you cut 7 players from this draft yuo cant rebuild when you can't properly plan for ijuries on the team or sign free agents. Sorry Idzik must go if rex goes they need to clean house and get the stench of this regime out of the building
they were laughing before. Denver the tight end was yelling how easy it was. Other teams fan bases have done this past. I would be concerned about winning then care what people think.
That's talk that goes on between players. Trash talk, means nothing. He's probably said that a bunch of times in his career. Always concerned about winning. But I highly doubt a plane is going to accomplish anything beside make us look bad. JMO
yeah the fins fans were completely wrong when they did it. by the way i believe tony was fired that year. whether it is the players talking or not it is crap. really you were born in 89 you missed some of the best yr=ears and some of the worst. most of the older fans are tired of the gross negligence of the gms we have had..... sorry be a fan since the early 70s then tell me about being a fan tell then your opinion means little. sorry you were born to late but oldre fans have had enough. Google the new orleans saints or the 80 falcons then come and talk
My opinion means just as much as yours. We're both fans of the same team. What went on in the 80s and early 90s also means very little when discussing todays product. Different coaches, different GM, different owner even. IDC what other fans have done over the years. It's stupid to be flying those banners, the billboards that are going to go up are stupid as well. Colossal waste of money. It's a huge overreaction to a guy whose been here for only a year and a half.
God. Does that make a lot of sense. It would explain everything up till now. Doesn't explain the Yankees and Giants. Maybe one team absorbes one kind of energy, the other a different kind
I'm sure Fred and Jeff Wilpon hope this is true. Difference is the Mets pin their hopes on Harvey, deGrom and a wealth of young pitching over 162 games. The Jets pin theirs on The Sons, Decker, Geno, Ivory and now Harvin. If MetLife starts to look like CitiField, then what? Crazy enough but the Mets might have more upside than the Jets at this point in the "rebuild".
A GM THAT HAS LOST TALENT WITHOUT REPLACING IT HAD POOR DRAFTS AND DID NOT SPEND MONEY TO COVER FOR TH ISSUES WITH THE DRAFT HOW MANY WIDE RECOVERS DID THEY DRAFT? HOW MANY ON THE ROSTER Why did he not get a young struggling qb another receiver why run out with david nelson and don't try to tell me you thought he was going to be good this year. How about patterson how many games did he play in out of the last two fulls season ....8 yeah our gm has a plan either he is a complete moron or he sabotaged the season either should be a fireable offense We are second to to the jags in money to spend second. I can understand the Jags they don't have the media pressure and can roll like that. You can't do that in NYC and expect to get away with it I am sorry but your opinion may mean as much as mine but I value it much less simply because you have not been around long enough to criticize actions of a fan base> Come back in 20 years an see your reactions Till then don't complain about what you cant understand
Jets fans have no experience with having winning teams so they don't really know what it takes for a winning team to have. First) Idzik has no football experience so at best he should only be an agent dealing with trades and buys, not specifying which players to drop or pickup. (I'm assuming he has business experience in contracts.) Parcells as a GM could do that because he actually can evaluate talent. Second) Ryan has no experience head coaching, and actually very little top coaching in any discipline. So the fans stick with Ryan because of his personality and his BS. I can't think of a future decade the Jets will actually start winning, the owner knows nothing about owning a team either. Nothing about the recent past surprises me about this team, incompetence drives the day.
I hate that "rebuilding" word when it comes to this team. We just need a QB. We have a decent o-line, good RB's, good WR core (masked by poor QB play), young stud (most likely) at TE, crazy good front 7 on D, decent safeties and corners (when healthy which they are not). Only thing that needs rebuilding is our coaching staff and front office!
The Jets have always been trying to keep up with the Jones. Whether it's the Pats, Bills, Dolphins, Colts, Steelers, Ravens, or Giants. They're always making moves to counteract what others do. The Jets seem to be content with being middle of the road at best. I'm sick of 9-7, 10-6 as the goal and hoping to make the playoffs as a wild card year after year. Every few years the Jets retool through free agency for a quick 1-2 year window. Then those players age out and its rinse and repeat. That strategy hasn't gotten us anywhere. But I guess just as long as we're "competitive" as a middle of the road team. That's what matters right? I want to try a new approach enough with the quick fixes and stop gaps. You'd be surprised how many teams cut bait with draft picks in their first year. That doesn't nake the Jets incompetent. They acknowledge a mistake and moved on quickly.
These guys are pretty rich, and got lots of money rolling in from television deals (which I am not 100% sure but I think they spread the wealth around there), and merchandising, and so on. So if they get a few years of poor stadium performance, I am sure it won't ruin them. But if you can rebuild into a true contender, go deep in the playoffs, they'll make that money back quick, and then some. I think most of these guys buy sports teams because they are fans themselves, and want to do well, and if impatient fans get in the way of rebuilding and getting that championship, then the good owners have to say, screw it, and do it anyway. Otherwise, they just turn into Dolan.
One of the best posts I've seen on this board in a very very long time. I think it boils down to this offseason, if Idzik (assuming he is still around) doesn't make an impact in FA and have a good draft I think he'll be shown the door at the end of the season. This team will have around 50 million in cap space and Mike Iuputi should be priority #1 followed by at least 2 CB's and an OLB. I don't see anyway possible we end up with a legit QB outside of the draft so we may still be a few years away from having a good QB but we need to build in other areas and much like the Seachickens add that QB as the last piece because as this team has shown time and time again they ultimately fail when trying to build the team the other way. Even Tuna was lucky he had Vinny sitting behind Glen Foley or 98 may never have happened.
Even Dolan, bad as he is, finally got religion when it comes to meddling. At least so far. I'm sure there's no way for a fanbase to break a franchise as the NFL would simply float loans to any Owner that was in financial trouble. The only thing the Fanbase can affect is perception and the brand itself. Even then, it would be a minimal effect at best and a waste of time at worst. Somewhere between those options is Apathy. That's where I think this fanbase might be headed. I know I'm not nearly as emotionally invested in the Jets as I used to be. I follow them, but draw the line at living and dying with them. 45years without much to be proud of does that to a fanbase. For some crazy reason though, we still show up and cheer. That's why in the end, it really doesn't matter what Woody does or who gets fired when. Woody will still own the Jets and the fanbase will still shell out the cash.
Other than thanks for the compliment, I don't have a feeling either way whether Idzik gets fired or is given another off season. But if Idzik stays, I have no confidence in him using the team's available cap space and draft picks any better than he has so far. And so far he has not performed at an acceptable level. Leaving him in place merely puts off the inevitable another year, imo.
Well, as someone who has only been a fan for a couple of decades or so, I feel for the people with 30-40+ years of the Jets experience, but I feel like sometimes it becomes part of the problem. It's like someone who has a really bad relationship experience, and then it starts affecting them so much, it messes up even good relationships for them. When they meet a nice girl/guy, all they can think about is all the bad stuff in the past. We've had a lot of shit in the past, but that has nothing to do with Idzik, so he needs to be given a fair chance. If he fails, then in due time he will get canned, and the next guy will come in and will also need to be given a fair chance. There are no guarantees, but that is the only way we can at some point build something successful.
