Apparently they moved the practice indoors today and someone from the staff brought a remote controlled plane or helicopter and flew it around with a "Go Jets" banner hanging off it. Pretty funny.
Why does someone always have to be the fall guy? This season sucks and I understand the frustrations. But this was a rebuilding team with a strategy the GM told us he was using. It's also too soon to judge his drafts.
8-8 may have been fools gold. This team has been plagued with injuries and bad luck. If you hire a GM you give him time to see how his drafts pan out plus time to ratify mistakes. Roster needs were addressed but like I said we had bad luck.
Tough not to judge his drafts when many of the players he has drafted are no longer on the team. Considering the lack of talent, we should've been hitting on more of those mid/late draft picks. There's a lot of luck involved with those picks, but it also doesn't reflect well on our scouts or the GM. I am still amazed that we got nothing (at WR) out of all of those picks in a draft loaded with top WR talent.
When is "enough" enough for some of you? All these band-aids on big gaping holes never heal anything. The only true way to get this right is to totally clean house from a Coaching, FO and scouting standpoint and start fresh. You don't keep anyone on the current staff as they're a large part of the reason we're in this clusterfuck mess. Yes, Idzik gets a raw deal but his 2014 draft was very poor and 2013 wasn't much better. I guess the only way I see Idzik staying is if they let him keep the GM title but he becomes more of a capologist and only handles cap matters. Yet this would assume that the new HC gets full personnel control. In the other scenario where you're looking to bring in a new GM to hire his own guy then Idzik is just a straight up contracts and cap guy. This way he avoids the egg on his face that he so deserves and retains a lesser role with this franchise. I really don't like this scenario as I want to clean house 1000% but most GM's get at least 3-4 years to see how their body of work panned out.
I agree that we have had an unusual amount of bad luck, but 1-8 with 4 double digit losses (two of which were noncompetitive and a third was only marginally competitive) is just inexcusable . , , especially coming off of an 8-8 season. I agree that we overachieved last year by going 8-8, but the start to this season has been historically inept, even by the somewhat meager standards of this franchise.
The talent level is pathetic. Let's not forget that when Idzik was first hired he wanted to bring Tavaris Jackson in as our QB. That was the first red flag. He has failed to address the most glaring needs on the team. Our coaching has been ATROCIOUS. This probably the worst-prepared Jets team I've seen in 15 years. Numerous penalties, timeouts regularly burned by the start of the 2nd quarter. 12-13 men on the field. Utter lack of discipline and passion. Turnovers galore. And ZERO identity (aside from being loudmouth goofballs). At least with Herm, we has a team that was clearly well-coached, disciplined and amped to play. Rex has not done a good coaching job this year. Or a solid one. He's been TERRIBLE. Even with inferior talent, you can still be prepared. You can still show heart. You can still keep your mouth shut. But Rex holds no one accountable. He's an enabler of mediocrity and foolishness because he wants to be liked. Fail. The NY sports market is a furnace, no doubt. But there's no way you can blame this pathetic season on the press.
Injuries are part of life in the NFL. I can point to plenty of teams that have worse injuries. Other than that, what bad luck are you talking about? I do agree the point differential stat last year was a metric that countered the won lost record. There were the games like TB where the Jets were lucky to win. Still even with a rookie Qb they were a 6 win team. Second year Qb backed up by a real vet, and so far they are much worse than a six win team. I can't see how anyone can say this team is moving forward.
8-8 showed Rex knows how to coach with not much talent. Now with this team that has no CB,Decker been hurt most of the season,just got Harvin,Geno sucks so far. IMO Geno needs to play with Harvin and Decker more to fairly judge him.
In case you haven't noticed...it IS 2 years down the road, and the situations is worse, not better. Normally, I wouldn't give up on a GM after 2 seasons, but the fact that he had 12 draft picks in this year's draft, and the Jets aren't getting any better play/production from those draft picks is abysmal. By this point, they should be getting some signficant play/production from at least a 4th of those picks. Amaro's the only one who has shown much of anything. Pryor is meh. The rest are injured, gone or showing little. While it may be unfair or even unwise to fire a GM only two years on the job who: was saddled with a HC he couldn't fire, and then fire him before he gets a chance to name his own HC; did a good job cleaning up the cap mess his predecessor left; wasn't given 3-4 years for his draft picks to develop and contribute; didn't panic in FA and overpay players; has had bad luck with injuries; I just don't trust him. I don't think he did a good job with this year's draft at all. He knew what he was getting into in terms of Woody's love for Rex, and what powers Rex had in terms of personnel and the draft (whatever those might be). No one made him take the job. He had an opportunity to make a name for himself and has failed to show a clear indication that he has a handle on personnel and how to build a team. Grading him, I'd give him an A on the financial aspects of his job, but a D on personnel, and as far as I'm concerned, the personnel aspect of his job was the most important, the greatest need for the Jets at the time of his hiring and still is. I don't trust him to do any better with subsequent drafts and I don't trust him to make the right hire for the new HC if Rex is indeed fired. I fully expect him to hire either Quinn or Bevell as the new Jets HC, and I want neither, particularly seeing how the Seahawks are playing this season.
Bad luck with talent bad luck with the outcomes of the games. Not all 12 picks were going to make the team. And keep in mind that (correct me if I'm wrong) there will be football beyond the year 2014. Pryor is struggling now but he could develop into a good player in the coming years. McDougle is hurt so we don't know what he is one way or the other. The receivers Evans and Enunwa, one is hurt and the other is on the practice squad. IK and Reilly looks promising and are developing. Dozier is a developing Oline player. In a perfect world of course we'd love if all 12 picks were pro bowl caliber. But that's not the reality.
He was tied to Rex for one year. He could've fired him after last year. He chose to keep him. Why? Because they share the same ideas in terms of how to build the team. Idzik was a scout and personnel guy as well as a cap guy. Idzik has made mistakes and he's made some good moves as well. He needs time to implement his system and for players to develop.
Woody in the locker room at the end of last season announcing they were keeping Rex doesn't exactly make me think it was Idzik's decision to keep him.
That's why, in my opinion, the best kind of owner in NY area is one who acts like a parent with a bunch of petulant children. When your kids want all kinds of stuff that's bad for them, like candy, etc, you don't give in to them, but instead do what's best for them long-term. They might cry, throw a tantrum, but you don't let that influence your actions. In a same way, Woody should just ignore these drama queens for now (both among the fans and the media) and do what's best for the team. He might lose some money in the short term, but there are still plenty of reasonable fans who will continue watching the games and supporting the team, and once the rebuild starts paying dividends, a lot more people will start watching and being interested, recouping his losses.
For what it's worth, you may still get your wish. Vick is a walking injury and the Jets don't seem the least bit interested in playing Simms.
I guess U were not around in the 80s when the fans hired a plane to tow a banner which read "if Joe Walton brain was in a bird that bird would fly backwards". That being said why do U find it ridiculous? I surely do not because IMHO the only way you are going to ever win a SB is to make Woody look like fool#1. So what those fans did IMHO again is bring us closer to a SB then we were before the plane was hired. Remember another 45 years can go by just like the last 45 have without winning another SB. Also I urge all fans going to the Steeler game to wear brown bags or make a Tshirt & wear it saying words to the effect Woody pls sell the team
I was born in 1989 so know I wasn't. It makes not only the Jets look bad but makes the fans look bad as well. It reflects on us. We look like children who have zero patience whatsoever. The rest of the NFL world is laughing at us. JMO
