How can you guys tell so much about player's personalities besides the media? I bet you guys didn't consider Laveranues Coles a "Mangini Type" player when he was first drafted..........
How bout "Manginile" (pronounced like crocodile), instead of the term for which there is so much disdain. ...and the reason we got coles in the 2nd round is because he wasn't manginile, everybody knew he was 1st round talent. there ya go, even used it in a sentence
Your logic is off the charts. The Mangini era is now, not 7 years ago. Coles was drafted in 2000....by Parcells and Al Groh in the 3 rd round. Coles got kicked off the team and Peter Warrick got a slap on the wrist. He made one stupid mistake. Tyler has shown a long and repeated pattern of poor judgement, anger issues and being lazy.....another Chris Henry in the making.
So you're saying that theres no chance in hell a 22 year old can change? And when did it become factual that a "bunch of thugs" would ruin anything they touched? Lemme guess...THE BENGALS!!!!!111 The Bengals are an extreme example, and even then a poor one. Not only are they a good team, they look like a good team in the long run. That may go off track if a few of the young guys messing up now don't grow up, but thats a huge assumption that is treated like its already a fact. I'm not saying go out and get a group of convicts. I'm saying that Mangini has control of the locker room and I think he's able to take risks on certain young guys.
Mangini is the coach of the Jets..... to coach the team.............not run a concentration camp and rehabilitate players, especially ones you are drafting that you can "Hand Pick".....let them be someone else's issue. Your defending someone like Tank Tyler, who TIME AFTER TIME has screwed up. I still maintain, poor character players effect the team in a negative way. You only quoted part of my post, read it over again. The Bengals really did well this year 8-8 (sarcasm), even Carson Palmer is fed up with the thugs on their team. The Bengals Coaches, Gms and Scouts have no clue on investigating a person's character. I Manage a large business.....I run background checks, and drug screening on all prospective employess..........it's called protecting your Assets. An employee can be an outstanding worker, but if they are on drugs, they can hurt themselves, hurt someone else, or even steal from the company. Most people's character doesn't change............that's a fact.
I'm not exactly talking about it that way, I mean, say Coles was going into the draft this year coming off of that......... you would be making the same exact topic about him not being a "Mangini player"
I think Tank Tyler is a better 4-3 nose anyway. He can passrush somewhat, and usually occupies one gap, rather then two. His play involves him trying to shoot the gap, but he usually doesn't, so he clogs up the A gap, by pushing the center and guard back. He doesn't have the leverage to hold the guard/center up at the point of attack.
laverneus coles got an illegal discount from a friend who worked at a store. something that happens all the time. nobody ever accused him of being hot headed or lazy. something almost every scout says about Tyler. pretty big difference. this guys being labeled a NT cuz of his weight. who says he could step in and give us what we need? itd be the same learning curve D-Rob had to work with and wed be complaining all over. no thanks im not interested.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/1999/1006/99772.html Hmm... that happens to everybody right? Getting arrested for grand theft on top of past legal and academic problems?
