In your opinion, do you think Mark Sanchez is a MOBILE QUARTERBACK?

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  1. Demosthenes9

    Demosthenes9 Well-Known Member

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    Thing is, "the pocket" isn't a fixed position on the field, nor is it fixed in reference to the original LoS or the center. In short, "the pocket" DOES NOT mean the area X yards deep behind the center. As it happens, that's where "the pocket" most often is, but again, it doesn't mean that it MUST be there.

    If Sanchez takes a snap and rolls to the right, and the line rolls with him, he would still be "throwing from the pocket", it's just that "the pocket" has shifted to the right.
     
  2. ILL-AL

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    In his first 2 years he was pretty good at shedding the first tackle. I dont remember him being as good last year though lol
     
  3. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    Sanchez has excellent mobility, he keeps a lot of plays alive with his feet, and seems to throw well on the run.
     
  4. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I think Romo and Sanchez have some physical similarities. Both can extend plays with their legs, both have quick releases, both aren't quite as tall as you would like, neither has a rocket for an arm but seems to have the accuracy to make up for it.

    Physically speaking, I think they're pretty close.
     
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  5. Royce Parker

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    I think you have Giants on the brain...
     
  6. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    So I do.

    But I do think Romo & Sanchez have very similar physical skillsets. Neither are traditional 6'4" QBs with big arms that can drop back and blast away. They are smaller, quicker in the pocket and with their releases, and they beat coverage through superior pass location (as opposed to arm strength).

    I think Sanchez could learn from Romo. Romo's mobility is maximized by how good his feel for the pocket/rush usually is. If Mark can start feeling the rush and learning where his escape routes are (most of which can be established and predicted pre-snap) his nimble feet would be a greater asset.

    I think he could also stand to learn Romo's mechanics while throwing on the run. Mark is already pretty good at this, but Romo seems to have the same degree of arm strength and accuracy regardless of where/how he's running. It can be pretty damn frustrating.
     
  7. HardHitta

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    Yeah he's solid in the mobile QB department.
     
  8. GRNYT

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    please don't put aaron rogers and mark sanchezin the same sentence...its shows a low iq
     
  9. GRNYT

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    sanchez is not in romo's league either
     
  10. GRNYT

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    and yet, noam, somebody actually called sanchez a "more athletic version of aaron rogers"...LOL!!!!
     
  11. egelband

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    i think sanchez is mobile, in one direction, if that makes sense. he can go right or left all right, but can't go back the other way too well. he is also pretty decent at avoiding sacks.
    he doesn't scramble well and once a play is broken he tends to just go down.
    in a structured play he can move, though.
     
  12. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I never said he was. Try following the conversation before you respond with this nonsense.
     
  13. displacedfan

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    This is fair. Romo is obviously better, but has been around longer. I would say they are similar physically and if sanchez improves it will probably be into a Romo type quarterback. Although Big Ben is different physically, I think he slightly falls in the type of QB you are describing.

    You put both of them in the same sentence....
     
  14. JVilma51

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    He is mobile but not when he has to be. He has no pocket presence so instead of taking off a lot of the time he should watch film on I know I hate him more than anyone else in the NFL but Brady. He is slow as hell but slides the best and has a feel for the pressure. But let me reiterate there is no one more I hate in the NFL than Tom Brady.
     
  15. xxedge72x

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    It scares the shit out of me when Sanchez dives for the endzone. He's going to get crushed one day doing that.
     
  16. GRNYT

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    yeah but in a different context...mine wasn't a comparison...i mean, really, who would compare sanchez to rogers?
     
  17. Br4d

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    It's impossible to compare Sanchez to Rodgers at this point because the way they entered the NFL was so different.

    Rogers was picked late in the 1st round after he'd dropped well below the slot he was projected to get picked in. He was picked by a team that had a hall of fame bound starter that they had no intention of replacing immediately. The Packers had made the playoffs 4 years running and 10 times in 12 years. They had not been under .500 in 13 seasons at the time that Rodgers fell in their lap.

    The Jets traded up high in the 1st round to take Sanchez. The starter on the Jets was a failed 2nd round pick and he was only the starter in name since he actually hadn't started the year before. The Jets had made the playoffs once in the preceding 4 seasons and had 2 disastrous collapse seasons over that span.

    So Rodgers came into the NFL on a very successful franchise with no expectation that he would play and contribute early on. He actually was the scout team QB for 3 seasons before he got the starting job. The head coach on his team was from the offensive side of the ball and so his progress was watched closely from the top.

    Sanchez was handed the reins immediately and started from the 1st game of his NFL career. The head coach on his teams was from the defensive side of the ball and so the evaluation of Sanchez progress was left in the hands of the offensive coaching staff.

    After Rodgers 1st season the Packers offensive coordinator was fired. The head coach who was watching Rodgers progress closely did not like what he saw and so he made the necessary change on that side of the ball to free Rodgers up to progress.

    After Sanchez 1st season, a season in which the Jets offensive scheme changed several times, the Jets chose to keep their offensive coordinator and rely on him to keep track of Sanchez progress and move him forward. The Jets head coach was effectively out of the loop because QB development was out of his sphere of control.

    The Packers had a couple of very good receivers on hand when rodgers finally took the field. Donald Driver was a solid veteran receiver who had a distinguished career behind him and a few good years left. Greg Jennings was a fast game-breaking option who also functioned as a solid possession receiver when things broken down. Rodgers had experience with both of them as teammates before he ever took the field with them. He had watched the previous QB throw to them and knew what their capabilites were.

    The Jets had one solid possession receiver and a young unproven receiver in Jerrico Cotchery and Chansi Stuckey as their starting duo for Sanchez. They gave up on Stuckey early as a starter and traded for Braylon Edwards to open things up down the field. Jerrico Cotchery got injured shortly thereafter and Sanchez was down to throwing to a new receiver and backups for a couple of games. That's where his season went down the drain.

    The Packers had a nice smooth landing for Rodgers if a bit frustrating, sitting on the bench watching Favre throw in a productive offense.

    The Jets had a helter-skelter beginning for Sanchez, throwing him out on the field before he was ready with an ever-changing personnel mix around him that were being inserted and discarded in pretty much the same manner a high school girl tries on clothes in front of the mirror.

    The 1st game Sanchez starts this season will be the game when Aaron Rodgers started his 1st NFL game. He will do this without ever having had a WR for 3 consecutive full seasons.

    Where Sanchez winds up is anybody's guess at this point but the big why is always going to be J-E-T-S.
     
  18. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I remember when he ran for a TD against the Titans his rookie. He lead with his head right in to the defender's shoulder. I remember thinking "He's going to kill himself if he keeps that up."

    I can't say I recall him doing that ever again, but he still seems to subject himself to a beating when running. When you couple that with the fact that he seems to be banged up a lot (NOTE: I am NOT saying he's not tough, I just don't think he's the most durable QB in the league), I think he needs to do more to protect himself.

    The best thing he could do to keep himself healthy would be to murder Wayne Hunter in his sleep, there's no way the replacement could be any worse.
     

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