This is something you say about a mediocre quarterback, for great quarterbacks, for quarterbacks who were drafted 5th overall, we should be saying: a WR is only going to be as good as his quarterback. This is how you tell if a QB has elite potential or is mediocre, does he make the players around him better? or does he need players around him to make him look better? Mark has clearly shown he belongs to the latter category.
They have gotten rid of Cotchery, Edwards, Burress...keller is hurt, hill is hurt, holmes got hurt...no LT, no Leon Washington, no backfield pass catching option. Who does he even have to throw the ball to?
Turner, Schillens, Kerley, that shitty tight end Epps, Cumberland Jets easily have one of the worst receiving corps in the NFL, especially with Hill, Holmes and Keller out, with them they are at least somewhere close to average
I'm not arguing that we have WR talent, we are clearly lacking talent in the WR department, but the issue is that in year 4, we shouldn't be seeing ZERO POINTS, no matter who takes the field at WR. An elite quarterback (or even just a good quarterback) with our WRs, would have scored points today. Sanchez generated ZERO; he was the 5th overall pick, you don't draft a QB 5th overall to be serviceable you draft a QB that high to be elite, and Sanchez isn't even good. Sanchez is only as good as the people around him, he does nothing to elevate the game of his teammates, he brings nothing to the table, no added knowledge, no added skill, no added talent that can overcome the talent deficiencies of his teammates. It's not just that he didn't make plays for the team, it's that he was a detriment to the team with his fumble and interception, he is a burden, not an asset.
Is Sanchez is elite - no not even close - -but they guy has what it takes to win in crunch time - in the 4th quarter and playoffs - -you can't coach that. With healthy weapons they guy is solid- look at week 1. Eli Manning was less than average in his 4th season as the #1 pick in the draft...and he came into his own for the playoffs. Sanzhez is young, under contract, and has shown the ability you want in a QB. Get the guy some healthy weapons.
Intelligent talk has no business here. This is a web-site for the most part "heart on the sleeve" over-reaction. It's one game. It's over. Next please.
Very well put, my thoughts exactly. Even a average QB will complete in the 50% range and he doesn't. Baffling.
You are proving my point exactly, you are putting the onus on the weapons not on the quarterback. Eli turns no names into stars, Sanchez turns no names into marred names. You can always point to "that one game" or "those times in the 4th quarter" but the very fact that you have to resort to cherry picking a few moments over the course of 3 seasons and change shows #1 that he isn't consistent, #2 that his mediocre moments outnumber his good moments, and #3 that he NEEDED better players to barely look average. Sanchez cannot make players around him better, this is the heart of the issue. It's sad that we need consider the fact that Mark seems to need a Calvin Johnson type receiver just to not look awful! It's sad that he is powerless to score a single point in the game today, that in spite of the fact that we have a low talent WR grp that he has not developed enough in 4 years to make a single big play with the talent he has, has not developed enough to make his teammates look better. Sanchez may be young, but he plays younger, he plays like a rookie. Shown the ability you want in a young QB? Every QB at one point or another has shown the ability you want to see, the distinction who can deliver regularly and who can only deliver every now and then, Sanchez is in the latter grp.
exactly, i don't understand how some people still defend Sanchez to the grave, they have an excuse for everything he does wrong, the guy is trash how can fans defend him, this is the best put Sanchez comment ive ever read on this site
Give me a break!! This is his 4th season, he still hasn't a clue about ball security. His fumble with less then 2 minutes to go in the first half was inexcusable. Also, he is not an accurate passer, he has a less then 50% completion rate. While I agree he is not surrounded by great talent, he also has culpability.
you guys gotta give him more time, Alex smith wasn't good until his 7th season, and that was until he got good receivers and a head coaching staff. Who knew that Alex Smith plays better when he actually has a real o line and defense, same thing with Sanchez. He won more playoff games than half the QBs in the league.
At 10-0 to start the 2nd half Tebow should have been put in the game . It's the reason you traded for him . And forget about telling me he is not a real QB, great because you did not need a real QB you needed a win.
Yea, Ducasse in for run...Slauson in for pass. This was not an issue. Don't blame the Oline for this bullshit show!
Cumberland was a beast out there today. Kerley made some some catches.....Stop covering for Sanchez......he's done!
Eli is a very accurate passser, who has the ability to not get rattled when things around him are seemingly falling apart. Like a bad day of being able to run the ball or bad OL play. For every Eli, who does make the players around him better, there is an Alex Smith who just manages a game. How GREAT was the 49ers game plan today. We completely took Davis - the best TE in the NFL - out of the game. We also limited there passing with some good disguised coverages. At first they beat us running up the middle and then BEFORE we could adust they went to a Wildcat that we could not stop. THE 49ers won without ever asking there QB to make everyone better - something they do with regularity. Mark Sanchez needs to be a QB that manages a game. Three and four years ago, there was Braylon, Holmes, Cotchery, Leon, Thomas Jones that provided plays that allowed Sanchez to MANAGE the game. His managing games got us to deep in the playoffs 2 years in a row. Last year they asked Sanchez to carry the team with his arm. 60+ throws in the Giants game is a fine example. He did not succeed. IMO, proving that Sanchez needs the talent around him to allow him to manage a game. Even with that said, Sanchez did HIMSELF bring the team back against the Texans 2 years ago at home on that last drive. How great were those passes to Edwards and Holmes on the series? He does have the talent to malke the throws when needed, but he needs to vtalent and gamplan around him for him to succeed. MANY QB'S HAVE SUCCEEDED BY BEING A "GAME MANAGER" - and - SOME HAVE EVEN WON A SUPERBOWL (e.g. Trent Dilfer, Jeff Hostettler, JOhnson in TB to name a couple) The problem is we never replaced the Edwards, Leon and Thomas Jones type players. Tanny and Rex were right to get rid of them when they did, because none of them, with the minor exception of Leon, is doing enything in the NFL.
So we need to wait nearly a decade before he has a truly good season? for a guy who made 50 mil + on his rookie contract and still hasn't earned that money as far as I'm concerned. Sanchez has a very good OL compared to most QBs in the league, look what Cutler has to deal with, and he is still a better QB than Sanchez. This is a testament to the coaching and the defense/running game, not to Mark. We shouldn't attribute these wins to one player, like wins are for pitchers in baseball, it takes a team to win, and the aspects of the team that led the way in those playoff wins were the defense and the running game coupled with good gameplanning from the coaches.
He should have been benched for at least a series or 2 right there......I found myself kind of accepting what did as it seems to happen every game.....He finds a way to kill us and put the defense back on the field! Jesus Christ...What a a truly terrible game by Sanchez today.
and when Sanchez had those guys he was still just average, and you likely had the same "he needs more time" excuse. there is always an excuse for Sanchez. too young. o line sucks. receivers suck. it is never Sanchez's fault.
