I'M TIRED Of everyone ganging up on Mark

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  1. FOURTHANDLONG

    FOURTHANDLONG Active Member

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    The Jets need to Focus on getting the first pick in the draft so we can get the best QB available. Let McElroy start once they pull the plug on Sanchez.
     
  2. Pereiro16

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    Im so glad your opinion means nothing
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Cincy made the playoffs in a tougher division last year, basically any team can make the playoffs. Tannehill has looked promising but did throw the INT to set up the GW FG for Ari.

    mark has regressed but so has the talent around him.

    I think so unless they removed a win from our record based on yesterday's putrid performance. We still have more wins, right?
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    missed kicks are part of the game, he missed 2 LONG FGs. neither was a chip shot, we could make that same excuse if our WRs could catch. The bottom line is we won and are 2-2/

    absolutely, you too.
     
  5. xmscott

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    Week 4 Sanchez

    SeanLDurham ‏@SeanLDurham
    Sanchez's 4th game - 2012 (49ers) - 13/29, 103 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 39.9 QB rating #Jets

    SeanLDurham ‏@SeanLDurham
    Sanchez's 4th game - 2011 (Ravens) - 11/35, 119 yds, 0 TD, 1 INT, 30.5 QB rating #Jets

    SeanLDurham ‏@SeanLDurham
    Sanchez and the 4th games of the season has not meshed at all since he's been a Jet. 09 (Saints) - 14/27, 138 yds, 0 TD, 3 INT, 27.0 QBR
     
  6. NewYorkEveryThing

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    The title of this thread has to be a joke.Just the way the sentence sounds.It sounds fruity. C'mon remove this post someone.
     
  7. BrucekilledBoomer

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    I think it's pretty clear that Dalton had more talent around him last year than Tannehill has this year. Plus You're talking about a 4 year collegiate starter versus someone who started his collegiate career as a receiver and had only 20 starts at QB. I'm shocked you'd consider wins and losses to be so important from a rookie qb when you consider that's the mindset that restricted Sanchez from growing.
     
  8. TNJet

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    here is Sad Sack's game jersey
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  9. ouchy

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    It was only his 52 start. Be patient.
     
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    Honestly, this play reminds me of the end of last season. I have a sneaking suspicion that Sanchez is playing hurt again. He hasn't been himself since that hit to the head in the Steelers game. I don't understand how you can go from an amazing game like the Bills win to absolute shit.

    Everybody talks about Revis being impossible to overcome, but he could have played yesterday and it wouldn't have made a difference.
     
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    Has Mark regressed because the talent around him has regressed or has the talent around him regressed because Mark has regressed?
     
  12. jerseyjay14

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    this is a quality telling statement. basically, sanchez is only as good as the team around him. he isnt going to elevate you. its not his fault we stink, but he also isng helping matters
     
  13. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Just stop... we can't compare Brady and his weapons to Sanchez and his. Who was Wes Welker before he got to New England? He was a nice white kid who returned punts in Miami and was an average WR. Now is a 100 catch guy. Who was Deion Branch in Seattle? Garbage is who he was. You have to ask yourself why are these guys household names? Maybe it's because the guy throwing them the ball is a dam good QB. The proof is there, how many Pats WRs have had success away from Brady? How many no name WRs has Brady made look like Pro Bowlers?

    Did you call Bush a great RB? He's good but he's not great. Adrian Peterson is great, Stephan Jackson is great, Frank Gore is great. Bush isn't close to those guys. He's only had one 1000 yard season. That's great? Hartline is an ok WR, nothing special. Do you honestly think Hartline is better then Holmes? I don't think Bess is much of an upgrade over Kerley. He's a good slot guy with a little more speed but he's not leaps and bounds ahead of Kerley.

    Good QB's make something out of nothing, it's obvious Sanchez isn't making the guys around him better. Does Sanchez need training wheels still? At some point you have to stop blaming, the OL, Schotty, Cavanaugh, Rex, Tanny, Holmes, no run game. You're not going to have a run game when teams don't repsect the guy throwing the ball. No team in the league is afraid of Sanchez. At this point outside of maybe a handful of guys we have the worst starting QB in the leauge. The problem is thanks to the Tebow nonsense and the lack of a real backup QB we have no shot to see if he is truly the problem. McElroy isn't going to win games. It's obvious the coaches don't even know what to do with Tebow. Our defense isn't as good as the Broncos last year so I don't think Tebow gets the W's he did last year.

    Long story short we are fucked and there is laundry list of blame to go around but it starts with horrid play out of the QB.
     
  14. FOURTHANDLONG

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    Can somebody please tell me if there is any starting QB in the NFL right now that you would not take over Sanchez right now! Any one!!!
     
  15. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Last I looked stats do not play the game nor have any part in the final outcome of the game :sad:
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    most QBs are like that outside of the very top guys.
     
  17. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    Really? So what you're saying is that if Sanchez had a 60% completion rate, threw for 3 TD's and had no turnovers the game wouldn't have been different? I know what you're saying but what you meant was "stats don't tell the whole story".
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    tell me what QB would be excelling w/ the talent around Mark?
     
  19. JetBlue

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    the issue isn't whether they would be excelling. the question is would they simply be better.

    you tout Brady for winning Super Bowls with mediocre talent, so you agree that a great QB can succeed with sub par talent. I'm not comparing Sanchez to Brady and criticizing him because he isn't an all time great, but based on the fact that great can win with mediocre it leads to the progression of that concept that the worse you are as a QB, the more you will be dependent on the talent around you.

    a QB that is completely dependent on having great receivers and has zero ability to make lesser receivers better indicates a QB who isn't very good on his own. that is Sanchez.

    he isn't bad because he isn't Brady, he is bad because he isn't a difference maker at any level at the QB position and is dependent on the talent around him.
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Mark isn't Brady and never will be, that's a top 5 guy all time. Guys like that don't come around often. Would we be better w/ Brees, Rodgers, Brady? of course but we would probably still be 2-2.

    Mark has never had "great" receivers.
     

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