I'm sick of Morons at the QB position

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  1. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    Lets stop blaming Geno and the lack of players around him for a minute friends. What we see here is a clear, critical and delusional expectation by the CS that Geno was remotely ready to be a starter in the NFL. Yet, they went forward with such huge risk WITH NO VETERAN BACK UP PLAN.

    The likes of Payton and Andrew Luck come once in a lifetime, but for most mortal QBs, yes RGIII included, there is still great benefit in holding a clip board and watching up close and personal how NFL football is played while training like a demon to understand defensive formations, tempo, routes and get familiar with the speed of the game. For Geno, a prospect with talent but very raw at best, the lack of development before throwing him to the wolfs might have proven fatal.

    Major screw up IMHO. As a result, we might never know his full potential, because the stakes are now so high and the odds stacked against Geno.

    What we did to Geno is like taking a graduate medical student with limited exposure to the real world and giving him the position of brain surgeon, without the benefit of a rigorous training program to make him aware AND proficient in doing all the things he did not get to do in college. It was absolute wishful thinking to consider him remotely ready for the job. And to top it off he was expected to do that without the benefit of having the supporting staff and tools available to give him a fighting chance.

    Now we are between a rock and a hard spot, do we suck up every remaining ounce of confidence out of Geno by continuing to keep him in a role he is clearly not ready for, and supported by teammates that are probably doubting his capability even more? Who do we replace him with? Is Simms more mature and ready at this point? We might know soon enough, because no one, and certainly not the fans will tolerate one more embarrassing outing like the last one.

    Giving him one more game could make him, but more likely break him for good. We knew he was a long shot prospect yet we never gave him the chance to mature as a backup. He had no veteran to learn from, it was swim or drown, with no one to help him in the deep end of the pool.

    Geno was not ready, that much is clear and painful, but what is even more painful, is the thought that at the start of the season, this organization had no QB in front of him or behind him good enough to keep the ship moving forward, not blowing chances for a team that is good enough to win, while giving Geno half a chance to grow into the position before giving him the reigns of the team.
     
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  2. Mr. Green Pants

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    And who's the Chad/Vinny on this current team? The undrafted rookie who landed in a back-up role when the two guys in front of him went down?
     
  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    UDFA QB's who sucked in college are exactly the same thing as QB's you drafted in the 1st round two years earlier.

    You just don't understand that Rex sucks because he doesn't understand that.
     
  4. Zach

    Zach Well-Known Member

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    I have said, for some time, that Jets should have started Sanchez this year - so that the newly minted QB prospect can sit down, learn and absorb while Sanchez takes the abuse on the field. I even specifically included how Bill Walsh pulled similar trick with Montana. [Montana watched Steve DeBerg getting destroyed on the field while learning WCO.]

    Of course, when I suggested that, I was promptly bashed for being stupid beyond redemption - yep. Right here.
     
  5. AarontheJet

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    Actually the problem that most pinheads FAIL to realize is that we were better when Smith was throwing the ball and had the offense more opened up. The second we started relying on the ground game and playing with the "play not to lose" mentality our season went into the crapper.

    A quarterback's job is to throw regardless of talent. Geno is not given a chance to get into rhythm and quite honestly since the defense knows we don't take chances down field we only hurt our chances more offensively.

    That's the NUMBER ONE reason we are playing losing football right now. Compare the first 8 or so games compared to now. Geno was throwing for 200 yards a game and our offense with our faults flowed better and was moving the ball. Now we're playing so conservatively and we're totally fucked now. I blame this on Rex more than anyone. Rex is a great coach but he has a loser's mentality. He needs to get out of this thinking that the defense can always will them to a win. Fuck that, be aggressive offensively and PLAY TO WIN. If we throw interceptions or even fumble the ball while being aggressive, I can live with that. I can't live with this whole conservative gameplanning while we make it easy for defenses to create turnovers.

    Blame Geno all you want (he is as much to blame as everyone else) but he is not THE reason we suck nuts. The whole team is not very good and our coaching staff's gameplanning is making it apparent to the other team.
     
  6. Tom

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    No fanbase deserves to have a consistently shitty team more than the Jets.
     
  7. 74

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    Actually what happened was that oppossing defences got to watch tape on geno and quickly figured out how to exploit his weaknesses. He has since been in a tailspin and the coaching staff has had to lean more and more on the running game just to limit his chances of fucking up. How can you blame them when it's either a turnover or punt everytime they let him throw. It's baffling that they insist on giving him more opportunities because he's basically been relegated to hand off's at this point. We're losing now because teams are stacking the box and daring us to beat them in the air. Yes, his receiving corp is subpar to say the least but they are operating in favorable coverage, if he can't complete some passes in these conditions then what that tells you is that he is just a bad qb.

    piss off
     
  8. VanderbiltJets

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    Geno is good enough to deserve future reps, but he's not nearly good enough to justify passing on a QB in the '14 draft. Only time will tell whether grabbing Geno was a mistake. Until then it'll be growing pains and (hopefully) some great throws.

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  9. Kentucky Jet

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    why try to reason with people with an agenda? Let them spew their venom. Who cares? What they are is obvious to everyone with half a brain!
     
  10. TNJet

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    When Idzik replaces Rex as HC, then it will get better. Leaving Rex here was just Woody being cheap.
     
  11. RubenDias

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    that or having an elite defense HC.
     
  12. AarontheJet

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    They are daring us to pass and we are still calling run plays. We only pass on 3rd downs, which is giving me Schotty-flashbacks. We are in a rebuilding year, fuck playoffs. The Jets need to be aggressive offensively. We are too predictable which is making the job tougher on a QB that's already struggling. It's a cyclical problem.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/32062/jets-err-by-not-letting-geno-air-it-out

    I absolutely abhor Cimini but that article makes my point. We are playing not to lose and when we do that we're fucked. Get ready to get fucked from here on out until the end of Rex's tenure. I'm a Rex Ryan guy but honestly his play not to lose approach is ultimately going to lose him his job.
     
  13. 101GangGreen101

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    :rofl:

    What? Idzik can coach now?
     
  14. 94Abraham

    94Abraham Well-Known Member

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    Cant you read? Nothing he said indicates him coaching himself.
     
  15. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Uh yes it does.

    Replace - Verb - TO TAKE THE PLACE OF.

    When Idzik replaces (takes the place of) Rex as HC.

    Learn to comprehend fucker. That sentence was completely off.
     
  16. BeastBeach

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    3. To be or provide a substitute for.

    So: When Idzik replaces(provides a substitute for) Rex as HC

    Plus, you knew what he meant even if it was incorrect, which it wasn't.

    Don't be a douche just to be a douche.
     
  17. allan1

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    Again this pea brained sack of dung cant get it done. Please get this mentally handicapped human piece of shit off the field and get simms in there.

    GENO IS INCAPABLE OF PLAYING THE POSITION
     
  18. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    No doubt Simms comes in with 3 mins left in the game
     
  19. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    IF NY use MIa's game plan he has a chance
     
  20. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    This is not NFL-caliber football. I'm sorry but it should NEVER be this bad. Something has to change.
     

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