I'm not worried about our QB situation

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by perpetualchange, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. AarontheJet

    AarontheJet Active Member

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    I swear some people just want this team to do bad. We get Ivory back on Saturday, so I think we'll be fine with the running game. Plus the running game is going to take some time to develop since they are still installing the run packages. I am actually very confident in Ivory and Powell. Hell, McKnight should be a good contributor too.
     
  2. MoWilkNYJ

    MoWilkNYJ Well-Known Member

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    Meh, most of his completions came on short passes against the second team. Didn't really show much early on. He didn't do poorly, but nothing to get excited about.
     
  3. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    3 guys that have proven nothing but that they will miss time to injury and an average offensive line yet the run game will be fine?

    its at best an weakness, at worst an enormous liability. especially since teams dont need to respect sanchez throwing
     
  4. Joe Willie White Shoes

    Joe Willie White Shoes Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but Favre stunk on ice as QB of the Jets. I don't think the comparison between Favre of 2008 and Sanchez of 2011-12 is that far off.
     
  5. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    favre did this while injured and in the twilight of his career. please dont compare that to mark sanchez in the prime of his career. thats just pointless.

    how can i judge upside? how about favre has the most touchdown passes in NFL history.

    Favre has 180 more touchdowns then picks. sanchez has more career turnovers then touchdowns.

    with favre it was high risk high reward.

    with sanchez its extremely high risk extremely low/no reward

    if you are going to even try and compare the 2, you know nothing about football and should delete your account.
     
  6. jerseyjay14

    jerseyjay14 Well-Known Member

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    its EXTREMELY far off. if you look at favres picks, they are mostly balls down field trying to make throws he simply couldnt make anymore.

    when you look at sanchez picks, they are simply horrible decisions making bonehead back breaking mistakes left and right

    favre is a case of an old guy who needed to retire who was injured and had clearly lost a step, sanchez is just a horrible player who has regressed immensly from being bad to begin with
     
  7. perpetualchange

    perpetualchange Active Member

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    He really didn't. Were he still on the 2009 and 2010 teams we would have had a much better chance at winning those AFC championships.
     
  8. Br4d

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    Favre was pretty good for the first two thirds of the season in 2008. He was unusually efficient with only one game under a 67.9% completion percentage through the Titans game that put the Jets at 8-3. His cumulative season passing percentage as of the end of that game was over 70%.

    He was however throwing too many picks and that's one of the reasons the Jets weren't blowing the rest of the AFC East away. Obviously the tendency of Schotty to stack multiple targets in a very narrow lane up the field was part of the issue there. That practice does make the QB's job somewhat easier on the reads but it also exposes them to more mistakes on throws that are not perfectly placed.

    Every QB Schotty has had has paid a price in terms of interceptions as a result of the bunching of targets. If he ever gets a great QB that may go away but he does the other guys no favors by stacking receivers up the field the way that he does.
     
  9. KWJetsFan

    KWJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Seriously? What a dumb post.

    A proven injury prone back just got off the workout bike, but you think we'll be fine. Explain why?

    You also said the running game will take some time to develop, "since they are still installing the run packages." How long? So, we should be confident despite the fact we need to be patient? Stupid post.
     
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  11. LIJetsFan

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    Winters is a raw rookie, Peterman sux, Campbell and Aboushi are both projects, so this might very well be the year of Vlad Ducasse. Vlad has been coming along nicely albeit very slowly, but he's become a keeper in the solid backup roll. Not great for where we drafted him but he'll fill a need this year and going forward, IMHO
     
  12. Organized Chaos

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    The Jets QBs combined numbers Vs Detroit were
    27/39 (69%)
    292 yards
    2 Tds
    1 int
     
  13. endydee

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    It's not just that Sanchez is prone to interceptions. It's that he has shown to turnover the ball way too much in the red zone. He makes poor decisions. Misses wide open receivers, or doesn't make accurate throws which has forced receivers to make more difficult catches negating the opportunity for them to get more yards after the catch. His fumbling the football is another concern.

    Sanchez has not shown progress in the past few years, but maybe Morningweg's system will help. That being said, Sanchez's decision making in the beginning of the game in Detroit, suggests otherwise. I am ready for a new QB to lead the Jets, and would like Geno Smith to get the nod over Sanchez.
     
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  14. Fightin'JetTitan

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    I'm-an ol'-time Jet's fan........seen it all!

    ...jus' gonna' wait & see while hoping for the best.........!
     
  15. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    Is this serious?

    Kolb is better than Sanchez (along with every other QB on an NFL roster), and Manuel is better than Smith.
     
  16. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    Manuel executed a 2 minute drill, from inside his own 15 yard line, with 1:50 left and scored a touchdown. This all occurred while the mic in his headphone went out. He had no one giving him plays, no one telling him whether to spike the ball, call a timeout, run/pass etc. I think it is pretty impressive for a rookie, in his first preseason game, to have such a command of an NFL offense that he is able to essentially design his own 2 minute drill, go down the field, score a touchdown, all within 2 mins and no coach helping him out.
     
  17. TonyMaC

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    debatable on both accounts... but we're both biased here.

    if i can say something about Smith and Manuel its hard to call either better then the other on an NFL level right now, too early really if we're being fair.
     
  18. Bills over Jets

    Bills over Jets Well-Known Member

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    That's all correct, but to argue that the Bills would rather have Geno makes no sense because they had their pick of the two and chose EJ. If they wanted Geno they would have taken him.
     
  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I have heard this idiotic shit from Bills fans since 2009 about whatever worthless turd they have under center. Some end up having better stats.

    The only constant is that the Bills continue to be the worst team in the division.

    Funny thing, the highest paid player on your roster is a defensive lineman that is about half as good as Mo Wilkerson.

    Your team will continue to suck, and they still play in Canada.
     
  20. VirAurum

    VirAurum New Member

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    This year is a fact-finding year. We find out if Geno is our future, if Sanchez can revive the magic he showed in his first two seasons, or if we need to draft a new QB in 2014.

    We find out if Chris Ivory can be the stud he shows flashes of being, or if he was a waste of a 4th round pick and we'll be finding our new RB in 2014.

    We find out if Stephen Hill is a bust or if he'll blossom into a start-worthy QB. If he's legit then we only need 1 WR (maybe none if someone else shows some skill) next offseason, or if we need 2.

    We find out if Cumberland can actually be a starting worthy TE or if we need one of those too. Personally I'm a fan of Cumberland. I think he's going to be surprisingly solid for us (talking ~600 yards and ~7 TD's).

    In short, we find out just how much of an overhaul our offense needs. If our worst fears are realize, and Geno sucks, Sanchez is Sanchez, Hill doesn't shine, Ivory keeps getting hurt, and Cumberland blows... then we're going need a massive overhaul.

    Yet if Geno shines, Hill explodes, Ivory stays healthy, and Cumberland is solid then we need very little work at all (and can turn our attention to Safety, OLB, and OG).

    Because dreams don't often come true, but neither do nightmares, likely it is that 2 of those players work out and we need to find replacements for the other 2.
     

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