If you had to pick ONE PRIMARY reason this season unfolded this way...

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by HackettSuxTNG, Nov 18, 2024.

  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,844
    Likes Received:
    9,189
    The Gods are listening! Forty nine years to the day later, the Jets have given me another birthday present! The first was November 19, 1975 when they fired Charley Winner, who wasn't. Now they have finally moved on from the Douglas depression; happy days are here again!
     
  2. SackRecord99

    SackRecord99 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2022
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    95
    I blame zach wilson.
     
    westiedog1 likes this.
  3. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,377
    Likes Received:
    2,051
    This coupled with the fact that they should have immediately known the Aaron Rodger experiment failed right then and there. Followed by a decision to FIND a reasonable starting QB.
     
    JetsKickAss likes this.
  4. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,377
    Likes Received:
    2,051
    I'm going to say ownership.

    The minute the ink dried on the bid W. Johnson submitted to the NFL was the moment this sad sack franchise was effectively "done" in my lifetime.
     
  5. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2003
    Messages:
    10,243
    Likes Received:
    2,458
    Whoo that's a tough one. I hate to do this but I have to.

    We had the worst kicker in the NFL this season his misses forever changed the course of this season and now offseason & future of the franchise.

    Had he made the game winning kick at the end of the Denver game I don't believe that coach Saleh gets fired after the loss to the Vikings.

    Had he made his kicks in the second New England game this 2024 season just looks completely different right now.

    I have to believe the franchise would still be whole and even though the record would be far from what we expected it to be before the season started they'd be in the thick of the AFC playoff picture right now with a bunch of meaningful games to look forward to.
     
    Jets79 and mezzavo like this.
  6. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,377
    Likes Received:
    2,051
    You know, I feel you there. He cost us 3 games and, you're right, 3 wins and the team is in the thick of things. Our defense probably doesn't collapse and... So many variables. It is refreshing to see someone other than the usual suspects getting called out.
     
    JetsKickAss likes this.
  7. BleedJetsGreen1981

    BleedJetsGreen1981 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    2,198
    Likes Received:
    2,222
    Joe Douglas torpedoing the defense by letting Huff walk, trading JFM and not resigning Quinton Jefferson.

    Also bringing back Zurlein instead of signing Siebert was a massive blunder that resulted in numerous losses.
     
  8. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2022
    Messages:
    789
    Likes Received:
    779
    Coaching. There should be enough talent to be a .500 team at least.

    - No discipline, way too many penalties and mental errors
    - Come out flat every game, last game it took most of the first half just to get a first down.
    - Awful coming off bye weeks
    - No creativity in play calling, every first down is a struggle with this dink and dunk bs
    - Absolute garbage in goal to go situations
    - Can't stop the run
    - Can't tackle
    - Can't even call plays in time
     
    Jets79 and mezzavo like this.
  9. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    6,663
    Likes Received:
    7,196
    Its being reported by the athletic that Woody actually wouldn't let JD bring Huff back. Just saying..
     
    BleedJetsGreen1981 likes this.
  10. JetFanInPA

    JetFanInPA Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2003
    Messages:
    11,398
    Likes Received:
    4,084
    That's asinine if true.
    That's asinine if true. Somehow, Woody is even worse than I thought.

    The scariest part of that is it shows he thinks he knows better than the GM and his football people about personnel decisions. He has no idea he has no idea what he's doing with that and also what impact that would have on the GM and coach.

    Who the hell would want to work for him?
     
    IIMeanDeanII and Jets79 like this.
  11. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,844
    Likes Received:
    9,189
    Things are looking up then! The two guys responsible for the coaching staff are now gone.
     
  12. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    6,663
    Likes Received:
    7,196
    Its a scary look.

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5933929/2024/11/19/joe-douglas-new-york-jets-gm-fired/
     
  13. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2024
    Messages:
    615
    Likes Received:
    597
    season unfolded cause Woody sucks donkey balls end of story
     
  14. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2024
    Messages:
    615
    Likes Received:
    597
    season unfolded cause Woody sucks donkey balls end of story, go look at woody's instagram, he has 1000's of fans begging him to sell the team, he gotta be the most hated owner in sports.
     
  15. SOXXX2

    SOXXX2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2017
    Messages:
    3,982
    Likes Received:
    2,204
    Season unfolded in the off-season when the Jets let Saleh come back while guys like Carrol and Vrabel wanted to coach but no one hired them.

    Saleh had no right to coach this team after the prior 3 years. The whole staff should have been changed.
     
  16. ouchy

    ouchy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2007
    Messages:
    6,310
    Likes Received:
    6,404
    You can say ownership but it comes down to culture. Yeah the owner impacts that a lot. But we haven't had someone with a winning cultural plan come in yet. Success begins in our heads first.
     
  17. burf

    burf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2003
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    1,923
    It's all of the above.
    For the season, as I've often said for years... it's the coaching, with help from how the Media always covers the Jets. There's very little serious critical reporting done anymore. Always following the drama, rather than focusing on football. Every season tooting the "talent," while ignoring actual team performance, & never holding the CS accountable.
    Back to the blame...
    JD, not for any personnel decisions, as all GMs hit & miss, but for hiring Saleh (his first & worst decision), basically stepping aside letting Saleh run a totally undisciplined bunch of players (the Team), just being too meek with Saleh, & especially Woody.
    I would've respected him more, had he resigned, as Woody was ruining the team.
    I never felt that JD was fully 'in' on the AR trade.

    Which leads me to the buffoon-in-chief.
    BB saw right through him, & chose the self-made zillionaire to work for.
    The Jets organization is a joke. Those around the league just shake their heads.
    It's a reflection of the Johnson family culture that inherited their wealth, live in a bubble, & imagine that wealth makes them smart. -SMH-
    .
     
  18. burf

    burf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2003
    Messages:
    838
    Likes Received:
    1,923
    I agree, with one caveat... the winning cultural plan can only come about without Johnson intervention.
    Unless they give control of football operations to actual football people, it's the Johnson family culture that rules.
    And this is what you get.
    The only way this thing changes, is to sell the team (doubtful), or for the Johnson's to step away & just pocket the money, as they do the Country Club circuit.
    .
     
  19. Yankee6

    Yankee6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2004
    Messages:
    6,990
    Likes Received:
    4,739
    ME. The Jets will never be good until I finally can bring myself to give up on them.
     
    mezzavo and ouchy like this.
  20. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    676
    To me, this mess started in 2020 when Joe Douglas put together that awful team in Sam Darnolds 3rd year

    he made it really worse by drafting Zach Wilson

    it’s not Woody, the Fords still own the Lions, McNair still owns the Texans (who wanted Bryce Young btw). This comes down to hitting and missing on the QB and Joe Douglas had 3 chances and missed on all 3
     
    westiedog1 likes this.

Share This Page