I agree, you don't need superstars at every position. Would it be nice? Sure, but it doesn't happen unless you are the Patriots. But even they have role players. I honestly think revamping the DL will improve the rest of the defense. But what do I know, my opinion doesn't matter anyway, so I'm done.
Read my posts please. I do not mention Pennington. I did not defend the Pennington pcik. The point I am making has nothing to do with Pennington. It is simply that it is absurd to knock the Jets and praise the Pats for drafting Brady when NOBODY could have predicted his NFL career. The Pats got lucky, plain and simple. Extremely lucky. If you can't see that, you don't football. Tony Romo got more publicity before his first snap than Brady, and he wasn't drafted. Die hard football fans watching that fateful Jets-Pats game in 2001 were wondering who the heck Tom Brady was when he came in for Bledsoe. So here we go again. If you look back at the 2000 draft, drafting a QB was not high on the Jets' list. They had just traded Johnson to the Bucs and had 4 first round picks. The DL was clearly a priority and many thought that the Jets needed to draft a WR to replace Johnson. Drafting Pennington was a luxury that came about only as a result of acquiring the extra picks from Tampa. And Pennington was the consensus top QB pick in the draft. In fact, Steeler fans went nuts when the Steelers passed on Pennington and took Burress. Now, if you think that in today's NFL teams don't study EVERY player, including every QB, again you don't know football (hint - I don't think you know football). The Jets and every NFL team looked at Brady and dozens of other QBs that were never drafted. Again, the Pats lucked into Brady and to knock the Jets for not taking him is foolish. If you disagree, prove me wrong. Find me an article, an analysis, anything that says that Brady was going to be an NFL star or was a sleeper pick or a super sleeper or that the Jets should have taken him. Lastly, if you haven't figured out that the draft is as much art as science and is as much luck as skill, then you don't know football. The Pats have done many things well over the past 7 years. Drafting Brady was not part of their "plan" and he even admits that, after being drafted, he was eating nachos rather than playing QB. Bledsoe was their QB and would have continued to be their QB if not for the hit. If you don't know that, again, you don't know football. You are the merely the Champ of revisionist history.
To add to JWWS's post, The Jets wanted to draft Plaxico. In fact, they tried to trade Chad to Pitt for Plaxico.
We know he doesn't know football. Last year he said LT was a middle linebacker. If you've been following football since the sixties and don't know that LT was an outside linebacker, then guess what? You don't know football! Champ is just a troll. I don't know why ya'll go back and forth with him.
Good point. Champ knows nothing about football, that's obvious. All he can do is recite what has already happened, which everyone knows.
Just plain rationalization on your part to defend the NYJs for not picking TB & instead picking CP. If you run an organization & you are going to be drafting a QB it is the organization responsibility to find every QB that will be available & check them out. Something like what the NYJs did in the great QB tour to find KC. I am positive the NYJs did not do that but instead opted to look at CP gaudy stats (thanks to RM) & go on to other matters thinking that CP was going to be there franchise QB based only on his stats. This is a perfect example BTW of why the NYJs are now 0-39 in winning a championship. Just think Brick as the #4 overall pick. 2 #1 picks for DeW. Giving up a #1 for Jolly. Giving up a #2 I think for JMaC. Yessiree what a way to run a franchise & become a winning team. Just keep on defending them & soon they will be 0-60. Will that make you happier?
Trading posts with you is like banging your head into a brick wall. My last few posts were not defending the Jets and made no mention of their recent draft picks. The ONLY point I am making, which the entire free world agrees with, is that the Pats lucked into Tom Brady. That's it. Period. If you can't see that, I can't help you. Yes the Jets have made mistakes and yes the Jets don't have a settled QB situation right now and yes there are holes to fill and rebuilding to do. We all know that by now. But for you to continually criticize with no talk of solutions and for you to continually look backwards with no capability of looking forwards is just plain frustrating as hell. I don't know why you continue to follow the Jets - you sure don't root for them. You have hated every owner, coach, and player that has worn the uniform since 1969. And you adore the Pats. Kraft, Belichick, and the players are gods. Why aren't you a Pats fan by now? I agree that drafting, coaching, cap management, player evaluations etc all play the major role in the success of an NFL franchise. However, if you can't see that, just as in life, there is an element of luck, good fortune, and right-place, right-time factors in football, then you are a hopeless pessismist. Tom Brady is an example of luck in the NFL. Everyone, even Brady, knows that. I give up. I guess in your decades of experience, everything bad that happens to someone is deserved and everything good is purely earned???? Because that is your philosophy in football.
the pats win because they have brady, and because after there 1st super bowl win, free agents wanted to go there, its like that w/every team who wins the super bowl free agents then want to go to that team, the damn tuck rule, cheating, and brady is why the pats r good, and bellicheat isint a bad coach
This just in from ESPN's Bill Simmons, one of the biggest Patriot shills on the planet: The Patriots were lucky that teams passed a whopping 198 times on Tom Brady. They were lucky Moss fell into their laps and Miami was dumb enough to trade Welker. They were lucky the Chargers decided Rodney Harrison was washed up, and Junior Seau decided to come out of retirement. They were lucky Asante Samuel didn't hold out. They were lucky they only suffered two season-ending injuries -- Morris and pass-rusher Rosie Colvin -- and there was a two-week break between the Chargers and Giants games for Brady's high-ankle sprain to heal. They were lucky A.J. Feeley and Kyle Boller turned into A.J. Feeley and Kyle Boller with fourth-quarter leads and a huge spotlight shining on them. They were lucky Indy choked in the fourth quarter of Week 8. They were lucky the Ravens couldn't put them away. They were lucky the Giants only played three good quarters instead of four. So tell how all this makes Kraft a better owner than Johnson
If you think it was all luck than the fact that Kraft has good luck and Johnson is the Casino equivelant of the cooler is reason enough why Kraft is better.
They are lucky, but not that Lucky. Moss went there because Oakland is in shambles and Kiffin wanted him out, so the Pats went after him the hardest and got him for cheap. Welker came to the becuase Miami is retarded and the Pats knew what they were getting. At the end of 06, Welker was the hot commodity in Miami, and the Pats film nuts knew how good he is in the slot. Harrison and Seau are luck. They could have sucked in NE. They are both scumbags for turning their back on SD. Fuck Junior Seau. Samuel wasn't going to hold out, he wants to get paid and he wants to play. No one ever holds out for a season. Lance Briggs' didn't hold out, and his holdout was worse than Samuels. They had a healthy year-- yea that is a little bit of luck because you never know who's getting hurt when. 2 week break from Brady's ankle-- happenstance, not lucky or lucky, just happens. Feeley and Boller suck, so yes they should win those games outright. Indy did choke, yes. Lucky? eh, tough to say I find Front Office talent and On Field talent has outweighed this "they got lucky" battlecry across the Board. They do get the lucky breaks, yes.. but they being lucky all the time to go undefeated- No, they are talented enough and the get it done. Lucky breaks in those games? Absolutely, the Ravens handed them the win. But Luck alone doesn't win games. A team has to win as well. As much as I Hate Tom Brady and the New England Patriots, I respect their front office moves and their philosophies that make them a winning team for the last decade. I'd like our team to be that way as well. But until then, these guys are the best and the do get lucky, but luck alone isn't why they are the best. I pray we have taken the right personnel from them to do the same in the near future. Kraft is better than Johnson? Yes, he cares more, he is more attentive to the fans, he is out there shaking hands with the fans in the parking lot. But in terms of personnel moves... Pioli is better than anyone, thats why he has the NFL Executive of the Year awards that he does. Because he is a scary judge of talent. oh...And Bill Simmons is a retard.
Everybody knew how good Welker was. That was no "steal". Everybody knew how good Moss was. Trouble is, he's a dog and will only give an effort for certain teams. Give Kellen or Chad the offensive line that Brady has, then give him Moss, Welker, Stallworth (who everybody forgets about but is one of the best 3rd receivers in the league) AND Jabar Gaffney AND Ben Watson AND Kevin Faulk who is a good receiver out of the backfield AND Maroney who is good enough to keep team honest and what kind of season do you think they'd have. Give Clemens all the toys that Brady has and he will throw for 40 TD passes and a trillion yards.
Since you constantly defend the NYJs even though they are 0-39 in bringing a WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP to the NYJ fans& even though you pay Woody lots of money for your season tix & get NOTHING in return for the donation you give to Woody. With all your constant defending the NYJs please enlighten us why Kraft has made 4 trips to the SB in the last 7 years & Johnson Jets are so unsuccessful 0 trips to the SB in the last 7 years. Also if you had your pick would you rather have Kraft or Johnson as our owner?
Great post. Only a hater would call any of what the Pats have accomplished as lucky. At some point you kind of just have to give it up to them. They're a well run, smart, efficient franchise with the full support of their fan base. They caught a few breaks, but every great dynasty can have that said about them...
Not sure of people saw this http://blogs.rotoworld.com/Fantasy_Football/2008/02/7_maxim_moments.php 6. Most surprising person there had to be Woody Johnson, owner of the Jets. One of his buddies noticed our microphones and joked that Johnson should talk to us. Without missing a beat, our producer Matt, a Jets fan, said, “Tell him to start spending money in free agency.” We got a nice Jersey “OH!” after that.
