Stock Market Analyst you should know that from a past exchange between us. I hope you are suggesting my home also which is furnished with the rewards of being a SMA
This is true. That's how coaches operate, why Bledsoe played and why Pennington played. Both had proven they can win in the NFL. The difference is that when Brady got his chance he made the most of it, while Kellen Clemens did not. That's why the Pats were comfortable with letting Bledsoe go after that season (to a team in the division, no less) and the Jets are not comfortable letting Pennington go.
Im sure brady would be in the same position as any other rookie coming in with Adrian Jones and Johnathan bender blocking and Brad Smith and Wallace wright as your receivers. Two different situations. One was put in with a chance to succeed and one was not.
Who cares about any other team but us? We were in the market for a QB in that draft & choose CP what a joke huh when we could have choose TB. Now all of you should stop complaining he is a Pat because we are the ones our management & FO who made him a NEPs by NOT drafting him. Stop trying to alibi away from that fact by saying other teams did pass on him as well
Yes, passing up the best QB of this generation and hoping nobody else knew about him was pure brilliance. :lol: Because the first five guys they drafted were so much more important they could risk someone else taking Brady five times. :lol: If anyone, the Pats included, had any idea what he would be, he'd have been the #1 pick and played right away, like John Elway and Peyton Manning. That was not the case. Even your 20/20 hindsight can't change that, they got lucky, plain and simple.
So then Pennington also had no chance to succeed this year and the whole year was a wash for QBs. Pennington has proven he can win in the league, Clemens has not. Also, New England was 0-2 when Brady came in for Bledsoe, 5-13 overall under the great genius Bellichick. Hardly a juggernaut.
No, you were claiming that I said we need 8 new players which I don't think we do. You repeatedly kept claiming that I said it and never once apologized for being wrong. This is why people can't stand you. Almost 1pm. Time for your meds.
I don't think even champ believes this. He's just reaching because he has no answer for why the Pats passed on Brady five times and no answer for why they waited a full season plus to put him in a game. No answer. None.
Obviously you care since you are comparing the Jets to the Pats. And the line that every team passes on a player is straight from your playbook: http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=496886&postcount=54 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=496935&postcount=59 http://forums.theganggreen.com/showpost.php?p=496968&postcount=67 There are many more, but I think this proves my point.
There is something called value when it comes to the draft. Should we have taken Rhodes in the first round because we might have lost him? Brady was likely not to be drafted at all but someone in that organization saw something in him. Montana was a third round pick, favre was a 2nd round pick. As far as when he went in it may well be that they loved him in TC but didn't want to rush him or create a split in the locker room? When Bledsoe went down it took a lot of pressure off which probably helped him that first year? The fact is the Pats had an outstanding D and built a very good team around the QB. Sure there was some luck involved but the organization had laid the foundation for success and had everything in place to turn that piece of luck created by a very good scouting department into a dynasty, including a great coaching staff and OC to take some pressure off Brady.
Chad had the same cast of Characters he had from the 10-6 season before except Pete Kendall and a better running back in TJ and Coles and Cotchery in all of his starts except Ten. He has won before and that should count for pulling out at least one of the 8 games he lost this year other than the Dolphins. Chad Proved he can no longer win in this league. We needed him to step up and win games and he did not. Clemens came in to clean up Chads mess with a worse supporting cast. Qb is not a wash. Kellen won more games with less and could have been 5-2 if not for dropped passes by our offense. Not because our defense did not step up and save him. Chad is 1-8 Kc was 3-4 and the Cleveland and Washington games should have been won. Chad was 1-9 beyond a reasonable doubt and he was benched because he put himself there after being given the longest rope in New York sports History.
There was more than some luck involved. Any time you get a Hall of Fame QB in the 6th round you're lucky. If their scouts were that aware of Brady he'd have gone first, that's the point. Bledsoe had taken them to the Super Bowl, was drafted #1 overall and was in his prime. Whether or not they liked Brady in TC is irrelevant, he wasn't going to play barring injury. If they had such an inkling about him, where was he during the Pats' 5-11 season in 2000? Any time you go 5-11 there are going to be at least a few games to get a look at him and "get his feet wet" as you guys like to say, why didn't they?
Do you have all this shit programmed in to just copy and paste from now until July? The team was bad, period. It didn't just turn bad when they changed QBs, in fact it's why they changed QBs and it didn't help.
I will copy and paste it until Chad is Cut or released. 3-4 under Kellen seems better than 1-8 to me. Especially when your Future Hof Qb Chad went 1-8 and his only victory was the great escape against the Dolphins! The team was horrible. Chad was just the poster boy for the organizations failure. Do you ever talk to fans of other teams about Chad? He is a joke. The announcers on Inside the Nfl have to try not to laugh when they talk about him.
