see Penny is a Leinart supporter I can understand and agree with. He would like to see Leinart in Green n White, but understands we have other problems that can easily be addressed. I dont want him personally, but if we passed on Leinart without trading down or took D'Brick over Leinart that would be stupid. Mario over Leinart I would like. Then again Mario is probably the only consensus pick at 4.
Well right now it seems obvious to me that the Jets have Leinart alot lower on their draft board...then I do and alot of other people do. I have Leinart in the top 3...the Jets probably have him around the 7-10 area. Reggie Bush Mario Williams Matt Leinart D'Brickashaw Ferguson AJ Hawk Vince Young Michael Huff
Well I am glad you see that. I caught alot of grief early on for rooting for Matt Leinart and it was assumed I ONLY wanted him.
I've said this before: -Take Leinart out of the USC program (with 2 star running backs, 3 top o-line draft prosects, a top tight end prospect, Mike Williams in 04, etc, etc) and put him in Oregon or Vanderbilt or Maryland and tell me you honestly feel he would be a top 5 draft pick. I would wager he'd have been a 2/early 3rd round pick in that scenario. All I ever hear about this guy is that "he doesn't have the measurables, but all he does is win". Well, it's a lot easier to win with the support cast described above. Do you think Cutler would have won the same amount as Leinart had he been at USC over the past 4 years? I think it's likely. Leinart is over-hyped.
Ramsey for a 6th rounder was a bargain. He is a young QB with starter experience. If you say you consider him a 6th rounder, then I say he's the best 6th round QB since Brady. Bollinger showed improvment in every game last season. The Jets had absolutely no running game, and Bollinger was running around for his life on every passing situation. The guy was on his back 2 seconds after the snap of the ball on virtually every passing play. You could have put Manning, Brady, Palmer, etc back there, and the results would have been the same. Leinart is a product of having All-Americans all around him. Put Leinart on Vanderbilt, and I highly doubt anyone is even mentioning the name Leinart right now.
Leinart's had surgery twice. In high school he had arthroscopic surgery on his shoulder to repair a minor tear and then he had surgery on his elbow to relieve pain from tendonitis following his junior year at USC. I don't know what to make of the fact that he's had both shoulder and elbow surgery in the last 5 years but it does make me a little bit nervous. The common wisdom on his shoulder surgery is that it would have been problematical for a pitching prospect but not a QB. Still, an injury is an injury and you'd like to have guys with a clean bill of health.
Passing on Leinart at 4 would be the equivalent of passing on Marino. If he's there we have to take him. People have been knocking him on his arm strength and questionable work ethic but the fact is he's a franchise QB and a winner. Hell, Im still in favor of trading up to #2 for him. The only player we should take over Leinart is Bush.
Passing on Leinart would be the best thing the Jets ever did. He is a weak armed, slow, overrated Qb who played behind the 2008 Nfl Pro Bowl team. Whenever he gets a pass rush from a halfway decent team he folds like a deck of cards in the pocket. Those weak touch passes that he throws will be picked off by Nfl cornerbacks. If Norm Chow can not convince the Titan's brass to take him with the pick ahead of us then that is all the warning we need not to pick him. I he was the goods there would be no way Chow would allow the Titans to pass on him. If they do then we need to pass as well. We should pass on all three QB's and draft the best player available or trade down.
Sorry all you Lienart and Cutler fans but it's not happening :sad: . Mr.T and Mangini won't risk failure on their 1st pick as new Jet's management. Look to D'Brick or Williams as the safest pick for them to take.
Bollinger proved he should be out of the league? He had a couple of really good games, remarkable since he had no offensive line or running game. He's a backup at worst. He certainly deserves to be in the league.
Could you say the same about Carson Palmer? NOOOOPE... you make no sense man, where do you hear that he doesn't have the measurables? I would really like to know that one. How is it that those players weren't as good as they were simply because Matt was behind the center? The game revolves around the QB, and for him to dominate the way he did in college I would gladly open my arms to him as a future Jet.
It's hilarious... "don't pick Matt he will be a bust... don't pick this guy he will be a bust" Look at us in the past... we complain about the picks we should have picked more than praising what we did pick. Alot of our first rounders were considered "safe" picks and a hell of alot of them amounted to shit. TAKE A CHANCE THIS IS WHAT THE GAME IS ALL ABOUT! I
All Vince young did was Win when he beat Leinarts 2008 Pro Bowl team in this years championship game but I don't hear anybody screaming to draft him. And his stats were almost comparable to Leinarts. The things that made both of them winners at the college level will not play out in the Nfl. Carson Palmer has the tools to play at the Nfl Level. Leinart does not. The reason that he won in college was because his flaws were hidden behind a great team.
Please tell me why Leinart should be drafted? His arm is as weak as Pennington's, He is slow and is more interested in hanging in the Vip section of lotus with Paris Hilton than playing football.
Two words... Trent Dilfer. Leinart is an average QB with decent leadership abilities. He is not even close to being in Palmer's league. This coming from a USC fanboy. I certainly wouldn't hate the pick, and would support him fully, but he does not have alot of 'boom' potential. He will be good, not great. We do not need a QB in round 1, or an RB for that matter. Those are 2 positions where we have really good talent and depth.
