Ian Rapoport : David Garrard No Longer a Jet?

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  1. RuJFan

    RuJFan Well-Known Member

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    I don't have much faith in this scenario, but would sign for it without a second thought.
     
  2. Organized Chaos

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    Dunno, how much does Donovan weigh nowadays? He was getting pretty chunky in his off seasons near the end of his career.

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  3. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    That's a very good question. Most ex-players put on weight fast because they can't slow down the caloric intake to match the slowdown in their metabolism after they stop working out.
     
  4. Acad23

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    I saw him last week. He looked good.

    But I think his football days are past.
     
  5. All Gas No Shake

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    matt moore re-signed with the dolphins a while ago ... he is not available
     
  6. Br4d

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    There really aren't any decent QB's on the market at this point. They mostly got snapped up around the time the Jets got Garrard.

    Trent Edwards and Derek Anderson are the guys with some experience and low baggage. Jordan Palmer and Alex Tanney are probably the best guys with no play time. None of them would give Geno even a few moments of competition though.
     
  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    Vince Young is a talented guy who has recent experience in a Morningwood offense but does have mental issues.
     
  8. Br4d

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    Baggage. Trunks, garment bags, an umbrella case. Three marmosets yapping (do marmosets yap?) from a pet carrier.
     
  9. cval

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    Yeah bring in VY to Tutor your young QB that may have character issues. That would be a brilliant move.
     
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  10. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Garrard has no cartilage in his knee at all, how the hell did this guy pass a physical? I swear this move is not helping Idzik, coupled with Goodsons arrest and giving a fourth rounder for an oft injured RB fourth on the Saints depth chart, trading the best CB in the league and replacing him (and tossing the #9 pick) on a weak fragile CB. I don't know that Idzik is making good moves here, I'm quickly losing confidence in the guy.
     
  11. Lehtonen

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    SOJF party back in town?
     
  12. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Call it what you will, but when one of the first moves your GM makes is signing Garrard and the guy quits a couple weeks into camp and later explains he has no cartilage in his knee and can't even jog, I'm going to question the signing. This guy was signed to "push Sanchez" and the guy is medically crippled. HTF does this guy get signed and pass the physical? It's like Dr Elmer Hartman from Family Guy gave him a physical.
     
  13. ArmandJ

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    Yep, spending less than 2 million dollars in guaranteed money is totally making you lose confidence in the guy. :lol:

    When we signed Goodson, did you honestly imagine that he would be so stupid as to hang around with stupid people? If you did, tell me the powerball numbers

    If you wanted to pay Revis 16 million a year and have us cap hamstrung for years to come, that explains why you're a random guy posting on a message board and Idzik is an NFL GM.

    Chris Ivory has more NFL experience and is more NFL ready than any guy in the 4th round. Essentially, he's our fourth round pick. A very satisfactory one at that.

    As for Garrard, he wasn't my choice, but it's not like Peyton Manning or Drew Brees was in the free agency market.


    Your overtly negative attitude on Idzik is really funny and rather unwarranted.
     
  14. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    TWO of his signings are already down the pisser, one was to replace Sanchez and push him, the other to replace Greene. So they aren't nothing signings, they were one of the first Idzik made. How did Garrard pass his physical? How did he get signed? The guy is CRIPPLED! You don't question the wisdom in that?

    And he traded the best defensive player in the NFL, then used the #1 pick to attempt to replace him. It just looks awful.

    And basically no analyst agrees with you that Ivory was good for a fourth rounder, no one would've given the Saints a 4th but the Jets.
     
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    He apparently has missed w/ both but he was looking for low price guys to be role players. It will hurt much more if the 1st rd picks or Geno do not turn into good players or if he goes after a higher ticket FA. I hate losing Goodson, I thought he would be good for us but it's not a killer loss.
     
  16. BacktoQueens

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    i really thought Garrard would be the starter if he could stay healthy.
    But it appears it wasn't a matter of staying healthy, as he was never healthy to begin with.
    I agree it is head scratching as to how he could have passed the medical.
    With all the other QB options essentially gone now, this one hurts.

    In terms of Goodson, i don't think its a huge deal if he is here or not.
    I like Ivory for the 4th. There is injury risk there as well, but worth the risk of a 4th rounder imo.
     
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  18. Br4d

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    When you're rebuilding you sign stopgaps for the positions you can't cover in the early part of the rebuilding program. Some of those guys aren't going to work out. That's just the way it is.

    Garrard was one of the possibilities to stopgap at QB. There weren't very many people out there to play that role and none who would have come as cheaply as Garrard did. You can argue that the injury history made him a longshot to actually play for the Jets and I wouldn't disagree with you but the Jets basically paid 100k to have him occupy a roster slot for them through the draft.

    Goodson is just another story entirely. In the end he probably will not have cost the Jets all that much in compensation and cap. He did cost them the opportunity to fill a RB slot in the draft since there was little reason to believe he'd be one of the few guys to destroy his own career in the off-season this year. When a guy basically takes an axe to his own future there isn't much you can do about it or ways to plan for it.

    Look at the other possibilities out there. It's not like Rich Gannon was hanging out waiting to get signed by somebody. You can argue that Jason Campbell or Kevin Kolb would have been a better choice. Campbell got 500k guaranteed on his deal. Kolb got a $1M signing bonus. Obviously the Jets wanted a cheap easily cuttable piece to provide competition in training camp. Given their cap situation that was understandable.

    Does anybody really think that having Darrelle Revis on this roster with a $16M salary was a better move than having the 13 pick plus a 3rd next year?

    The argument that Milliner replaces Revis in some grand cosmological trade is a non-starter. When the trade was made the 9 pick was the 9 pick. That Milliner was the best player available on the 9 pick is why he was taken there.

    As to fragility and weakness, he missed almost no time in college despite several injuries and Nick Saban often lined him up over the opposing TE if the guy was a potential game-breaker. He covered Tyler Eifert in the national championship game. I smell the Jets really wanting to resolve the Gronk/Hernandez issue definitively.

    I'm kind of in agreement on this one but I recognize the realities in play. The Jets are rebuilding this year but they can't go into the season with no chance to luck out and make the playoffs. Ivory was the best gamble that could be made to secure a very good RB for the year. He was more expensive than optimal but if it works out the Jets made a great deal. If it doesn't work out? Well, that's the downside - a 4th round pick was worth a lot to a rebuilding team.
     
  19. dr.velociraptor

    dr.velociraptor Tired of BS

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    Absolutely...

    The "cap" impact is overstated, it's bad for 2013 but 2014 and beyond we're fine, Revis is the best defensive player in the league, Miliner won't sniff his jock.

    Does anyone believe this Jets team is better because we traded Revis? I don't. Revis is going to eat our lunch, and if we're mildly better at stopping the run we will get abused in the air this year and for many years to come.

    With the 13 pick we selected an undersized DE who doesn't fit our scheme and is forcing our sacks leader out of position. I couldn't care less about the 3 next year, Jets are terrible drafters, I wouldn't let Revis go for a 3 next year. And if you really wanted Richardson we could've had him at 9. So is the team better with Revis and Richardson or Miliner and Richardson plus a 3 next year? You know my vote.
     

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