This is so laughable, not just your opines, but all other Rex haters responses and arguments. To blame this past season's failures, players/personnel/front office all on Rex is about as inane as giving Joe Namath the entire credit for the team winning SBIII. Let's blame Rex for Holmes's and Revis's season ending injuries while we're at it. Let's Blame Rex on Sanchez's regression or OL lines failure to run block. Or the countless dropped passes by Srephen Hill or Keller's constant disappearing act while healthy. Or the speacial teams bungles that were ongoing thru-out. Did IQ's suddenly drop here? as anyone realized that once the Jets drafted a QB in the 1st round, that the plan was put in motion. What fu&^kin other plan was there???? YOU DRAFT A QB in the 1st round and hope he developes to a point where he makes the team competitive year in and year out and in the process get the players to support him. That is THE PLAN!!! Ok, so it doesn't always go smoothly. But THAT WAS THE PLAN. Shit happens along the way. Woody has to right the ship, and I have confidence he will. What proven track record of failure? I will state this emphatically - a coach that takes his team to the championship finals 2 years in a row, how's that for track record? You and the other so called Jets fans whine constantly for changes because of one bad year, give us a break. I suppose you never had a bad day at work in your life?
Not a fact at all. Sanchez 09 & 10 went to AFC Championship game, actually had weapons around him during these two years. 2011 - Jets went 8-8 and Sanchez kinda stayed the course statistically in comparison to the first two seasons under center. 2012 - No weapons at all. Sanchez looked awful, continued the turnover problems from the prior year. Actually got benched after playoffs were out of reach. Nobody competent enough to replace Sanchez prior to that. Sure we had Tebow but he is obviously not a better QB than Sanchez and that is saying something at this point. So your reasoning on why Rex should be fired is bunk. Horrible reasoning.
I think that this is the best argument in defense of keeping Rex Ryan, but the coaching carousel in the NFL is way too dynamic to plug into any particular pattern. Exhibit A: the Carolina Panthers of the same era. Dom Capers looked like a genius. Until he didn't. We haven't heard his name in any head coaching discussions for quite a while. George Seifert won two Superbowls and coached the 49ers to perennial playoff appearances, and looked absolutely inept coaching the Panthers after Capers. John Fox replaced Seifert and two years later took Carolina to the Superbowl. I don't know how to explain any of that except to point out that talent is still what makes winning football teams. The single biggest difference between the eight teams still playing and the Jets is talent, not head coaching. In the end, I would keep Rex if only because I just don't have the patience to rebuild with another new coach every fourth year - particularly not with another first-time head coach. I'm exhausted seeing head coaches and coordinators filter in and out of the Jets locker room like they're doing college internships.
unless your name is bill walsh, bellichick, parcells, Mike Holmgren, etc. a proven super bowl winner, you do not earn the right to select the general manager. unless you're the fans selling their psl's and talking about defaulting on the payment agreements for them, you don't get woody's attention. not buying tickets, not going to games, not buying team merchandise are your leverage. ssince I don't live near nyc, I won't go to Cortland camp and won't buy the ticket on direct tv either. and, i'll tell anyone who asks exactly why I won't spend any money. I was on board with giving rex another year, but hiring a real general manager and letting him make all the final decisions. cohen getting the job means the search was a dog-n-pony show only. nobody who's any good will take the job when they don't have full control.:shit:
yesterday reminded me of the leon hess/rich kotite press conference. no way should rex have any input unto the general manager process.
since the afc team in that game has the run of the jets training facility, imagine the shit hitting the fan if that team turns out to be the patriots! if you think woody is getting roasted now, imagine the field day the press will have then.....I can see jet fans with " PSL FOR SALE" signs outside the stadium on super bowl gameday.hmy:
I think what most Rex supporters don't understand or don't WANT to understand is that since Rex has been here he has acted as a partial GM. Rex would tell Tanny who he wanted in the draft, in FA, and who on the team he would like resigned or contract extended. Then Tanny would go about figuring out a way to sign them and structure their contract so it would fit under the cap. Btw, that not easiest thing to do. It's no secret Tanny was a numbers guy, a cap specialist who relied on the HC and scouts to tell him what personnel the Jets needed and then he would go about acquiring them. So once you accept that then when we talk about the financial situation the Jets are in and the lack of talent that goes directly back to Rex. If it isn't fully clear to you now Rex had the complete support of the owner, whatever he wanted he got. Why do you think the GM and the rest of the coaching staff got fired and not Rex? You think they all had a bigger hand in the debacle than the HC? An OC who was hand picked by Rex was only here a year? A GM that worked hand in hand with Rex? People like to credit Rex with the 2 AFCG games, what about Tanny? If you are going to blame Tanny for personnel moves then you'd have to credit him for AFCG rosters. Why do you think the talent has steadily declined since Rex's arrival? Now let's take a look at what Rex wanted: 1) The wildcat: Tebow running it Sparano coaching it. and Ground N Pound! 2) Sanchez: He was so convinced this would be Mark's break out year he wanted his contract extended with guaranteed money with the hopes of improving his confidence despite trouble signs of him regressing. You think Tanny extends players contracts out of the blue if the HC is troubled with a players performance? 3) Holmes: he signed him to a huge contract. A malcontent overpaid locker room cancer. Goes back to my previous point. Only players backed by Rex would get resigned. Rex was so big on Holmes he even made him a captain. 4) Signing old washed up players like Derek Mason and Bart Scott. Why would Tanny sign them? hmmmm I know they both played for Rex in Baltimore! You think Rex might have had anything to do with that? Now do you think it's outlandish to speculate that Rex was picking the players instead of Tanny? Each one of those cases demonstrates that Rex is a terrible personnel evaluator and is directly responsible for the lack of talent. There are many more examples I could sight but it would take days. If you have a problem with the personnel then you should have a problem with Rex because he the one who hand picked them.
You don't have any facts to back your argument. You are just assuming that Rex was the trigger man. It doesn't add up though, if Rex was solely responsible like you are seemingly trying to paint him as, then he would be the fall guy. He is still here because Woody has faith in him to do his job, simple as that. Rex Ryan is the HC, that is his job title. The GM is the guy that pulls all personal decisions, he is the guy in charge of all that. Rex has input, sure, what HC doesn't but to think that Rex wanted this lackluster piece of shit offense last season is crazy to me. You can point your finger at Rex all you want, but he is still here for a reason. None of us know the true extent to how much say Rex actually had in the personal department, and I know MT job title insists that he was the guy that made all final decisions, not Rex. If Rex was the HC and acting GM, why would we even need another GM? Rex coaches the players and I don't buy into all this crap about Rex being in charge of the player personal aspect.
no way do those two guys have anywhere near the picks and fumbles that suckchise had. McElroy took 11 sacks against the chargers but only had one pick for 3 points lost. suckchise handed over lots of tds outright. :sad::shit:
I think you'd have to add Derrick Mason to that list. The guy who Rex told us would catch 90-100 balls and who, instead, turned out to be useless on the field and a cancer in the locker room. And John Conner, of course. But I don't think you can condemn the guy for missing on a fifth round pick.
Yeah yeah. Except, the Jets made such a big deal about how Rex and Schottenheimer arranged a private workout with Sanchez and then went through all sorts of cloak and dagger nonsense, sneaking him in and out of hotels and then snookering everyone else by trading with the Browns. That says to me, clearly, that Rex picked the player, put a high value on him, and told Tannenbaum to do whatever dealing he needed to do to get the Jets up the draft board. He was Rex's guy from the very beginning. I don't know how else you can read that.
I actually edited and added him. Scott and Mason are perfect examples of Rex's fingerprints on bad personnel decisions. No way you could argue those were Tanny's ideas. It would be impossible for Rex apologist to accept that Rex had any significant hand in personnel decisions. It's just too damming of an indictment.
I agree with you, which is exactly why the GM shops for the groceries and rex only cooks the meal. his dad got canned in both philly and Arizona , and often said that he was his own gm. rex is repeating buddy's mistakes, especially with the offense and his man-crush on the qb.
And not to point out the obvious because it's so silly, but I think when a coach starts tattooing a guy's jersey number on his arm, he's pretty well declared himself.
I thought of two other personnel decisions you can tie to Rex. Santonio Holmes from the Steelers Braylon Edwards from the Browns You think it's a lucky coincidence they both came from the same division Rex was in? They weren't bad acquisitions but they are unmistakeable examples of how Rex was the one picking the players not Tanny. We all know when Rex gets beat by an offensive player he wants them. Tebow beat him in the last game against Denver and guess who gets signed the very next year?
hmy: never noticed/thought about that. you're right! when the pats get ready to dump brady, like they did ( Bledsoe) to the bllls for a 1st round pick, maybe rex can bring him in just like mason and scott.
