Ian O'Connor: "Weak Woody bamboozled by Rex"

I evaluate a coach on how he does based on the talent he has. Based on that Rex did his best coaching this season.

 

Yet we do know. I just told you several times that Rex had input into all of the draft picks under Tanny's watch. So by default Rex needs to be held accountable to a degree for those picks if they don't pan out. The same holds true for when a draft pick works out like Coples and Wilkerson. Then Rex gets credit for those picks to a degree even though he wasn't the GM making the final pick as you say. It works both ways.

 

I'll give you 2: Tebow and Holmes. Rex was all for the Tebow trade and Holmes, known lockeroom cancer he made him the captain of the team last year. Any idiot could have told you Holmes should never been given a C, he's the opposite of what you would look for in a captain. You want to blame that on the GM?

 

Who the fuck cares about whether Holmes was named captain. I can't believe people are still clinging on to that as if it even matters. I don't think that caused any of our on field issues last year. It might have caused media drama... but really, he's the best playmaker on offense, and he's helped work with the young guys. He should be a captain.

 

You're right, but you can certainly reasonably infer. Rex never really liked Kerry Rhodes, who was an unspectacular but sound center fielder at safety. Letting him go was silly. And it was apparent to everyone and their mother that Bart Scott was done, but the Jets didn't move on from him. Rex's loyalty to his guys clearly played a role in ignoring roster deficiencies. Tannenbaum is certainly not a football guy. He was probably getting an idea of what they needed to do from Rex.

I buy that Sanchez was Rex's guy because the Jets have never been able to offer a reasonable explanation as to why they valued him so highly over Freeman that they moved up in the draft to get him. "Personality" for New York stuff doesn't wash.

But my point was that's not Rex's fault, that's a bad organization's fault. Still, I don't think the remedy is giving him more say.

 

How come Randy Moss or Terrell Ownes were never captains? You have to have leadership skills, not be self centered, and be a team player. Holmes was none of these. Making him a captain because he scores touch downs demonstrates Rex has no idea how to be a HC. You earn a C on you chest you aren't given one as bribe to be a better player. One of the long running lists of examples of how he doesn't understand the dynamics of building a team and to evaluate players.

 

Holmes was a well respected veteran who took younger WRs under his wing. He acted like a captain before he was actually a cpatain which is a huge reason why he was named one. Once officially a captain he let "power" go to his head and didn't act like a captain.

By the way, Moss was a captain in NE in 2008 & 2009.

The captain patch is the dumbest thing in sports, real leaders don't need a "C" on their chect, the players in the LR know who the real leadres are and Holmes was one in 2010.

 

I didn't know that about Moss. He was a different player when he came to NE. He was humble and conducted himself properly. I'll note when he was in NE his contribution to the offense was limited. That's what I'm saying peformance on the field is not a good indicator of their ability to be a captain.

 

are you kidding? In 2007 he had one of the greatest seasons ever for a WR then was named captain in 2008.

I don't think Herm hated Glenn, it was BP that left us in a bad cap situation forcing us to make a deal w/ Houston in the expansion draft.

 

it backfired on him no doubt but the strategy has worked in the past.

 

He should have a s much say as any other head coach which is give your opinion and evaluate the player on the field. If Rex is cutting draft picks it is not on him but the GM.

What I am not sure if he had a say was the offense or the coordinators. Schotty was here when he got here and Sparano was brought on to bring order on the offense. Sounds like Rex had little influence on day to day operations or the offense or who the offense of coordinators were.

Talent evaluation has not been the problem lack of depth and talent is the problem. Read Westhoffs comments just not enough players Jets are wat to top heavy.

That is on the GM.

The coach says I want this guy ie Revis or Holmes that does not mean you give away the bank that is on the GM.

 

I love when people just make stuff up and hope its true. Randy Moss WAS a captain on the Patriots for 2 years. Terrell Owens WAS a captain on the Cowboys. How the hell do you have the gall to just state something as a fact without even checking first? Now I remember why I put you on ignore before. Intentional dishonestly pisses me off. You must be like 15.

The only issue with Holmes being captain was that he called a few people out in the media. Big whoop. He said the line needed to play better and so did Sanchez. He was dead on accurate. I don't buy into the selfishness crap. He wants to win, and giving him more targets helps that cause.

 

I lately am finding myself agreeing with much of what you are saying, but you went too far calling Holmes a known locker room cancer. He had no locker room problems in Pitt, and such problems as did surface at the end of 11 were no doubt due to his frustration with Sanchez and the O. Not to defend him for the extent of his actions, but it is incorrect that Pitt had problems with him in the locker room. He was a pr problem for them due to his off the field problems with the law.

 

You want Stephen Ross making the final decisions? Yeah, shut up.

 

Can't we all just get along?

 

I didn't know Holmes was such a good character. I really can't remember anyone on the team acting like he did at the end of last season. I don't care what his stats are, I don't like him. The way he indicates every first down he gets like he just scored a touch down has rubbed me the wrong way from day one.

 

Seriously, It really is getting annoying with the same articles and fan and media bullshit day in and day out. Everyone just needs to accept it and shut up already