I don't think there is any doubt. Woody likes Rex and values what he brought to this team over the entire four years. He wasn't going to simply throw away the first two because of the disappointment of the last two. Rex deserved to keep his job, and Woody was only going to hire a GM that understood and agreed with that. only someone who had previously built a Super Bowl winning team would have and should have been given the authority to fire Rex upon their hiring. absent of that proven ability, there is no reason for Woody to ever have hired somebody and allowed them to fire Rex without his consent, either upon their hiring or after this season.
Which kinda brings me to my next question. You've been around here long enough so I put it to you first. Why is it that since Parcells, Woody's last hire that has HC experience is MM and No one he's hired since Parcells has had prior GM experience as well? I could be wrong about that but I don't think so. Idzik, Tannenbaum were both OJT Gm's. Ryan, Mangini, Groh, Edwards all OJT HC's. Belichek doesn't really count as he bailed and I think Bradway was a holdover from the Hess daze. If Woody isn't comfortable with experienced GM's, it explains a lot. Particularly how the open GM interview process played out. Just wondering what your thoughts are on this..
if you are idzik, just ask yourself if rex is a better coach than pete carroll! unless you are mentally-impaired, the answer is obvious.:jets:
Why on earth would you use Pete Carroll as a measuring stick? When Pete was here, he wasn't very successful. His successor was the worst in the history of the franchise. A better comparison would have been Parcells when it comes to Jet HC's. Lets face it. Our history when it comes to HC's isn't very pretty so it's real easy to find a Jet HC that sucked to compare anyone to. Hell, YOU would be a better HC than Kotite if we want to take a ride on the crazy train.
I don't know if it is really a matter of being uncomfortable with experienced GM's. it is a good culture to hire and promote from within like Bradway or Tanny. Idzik is an outsider who earned the opportunity to be a GM, but that doesn't mean he should be given the authority to fire a coach that Woody doesn't believe should be fired, just because he is being trusted to build the team. even a GM is accountable to somebody and his authority not limitless. only someone proven should be given that type of power, and who was available that would fit that description? I think Woody is confident hiring guys who may not be proven but are believed able to do the job. obviously a major decision like firing a pretty succesful coach, though, is a decision that shouldn't be in the hands of someone who has never proven to be able to make a sound coaching decision, and thus the entire organization, led by the owner, will participate in such a decision. same with coaches. the solution to winning isn't simply hire someone who has won before, it is to hire the best coach available. now, I certainly question the Jets hiring over Woody's tenure, other than Rex, but I see a philosophy of searching for the next brilliant but unproven candidate rather than a retread. I don't think it has to do with intimidation of proven coaches or GM's.
thats true but im actually asking where you going with that statment i mean , whats your conclusion/opinion out of that fact .
The moreI think about the more I realize they would have to dig up Lombardi if they wanted to replace him. There are very few fans who don't like him and they think they had a fan revolt on their hands beginning this year? It would be 10 times that if they do even mediocre and then fire him.
Oops. My bad. During the GM hiring process, I believe there were other prospects that had more personnel experience than Idzik had. I think Polian said he didn't want to come back and the other candidates had less than stellar resume's. While there were a few that were invited back for second interviews, all those that had the prior experience were not chosen. Why? who knows but at the end of the day, a guy that had no prior GM experience was chosen. Going back a few years, that seems to be Woody's SOP. It reflects in his GM signings and their subsequent HC signings. Seems to be a trend Ruben. For whatever reason known only to Woody, he prefers to try and catch lightning in a bottle so to speak. If you remember, Woody went on vacation and stayed on vacation rather than interview Cowher. Good luck for us perhaps, but it fits the SOP to a tee. It could stem from Parcells turning Woody down after he bought the team. Hard to say, but there's a trend here.
I think he hired Idzik due to he was inside one of the best team buildings that was ever done, "Seahawks" and woody wants that kind of strategy to be apllied on the Jets.
I appreciate that fact. But if Sanchez was not hurt, he would be our starter. There is no denying that. And I honestly feel if Mark was healthy and in the starting role we would be 2-5 with wins over Tampa and Buffalo. Rex's weakness is loyalty to his favorites. Rex can coach defense but that is about it.
Don, I've said over and over that Rex will get his extension barring a catastrophic collapse even greater than the 2011 implosion. The last thing a revenue hungry Owner needs is ill will from his customers/fanbase. Particularly with the unpopularity of the PSL's and perhaps the entire stadium generally. Right now, the fans have more power than ever before. Do you really think Sanchez ever was gonna start a game in MetLife Stadium again? No way in hell. Woody isn't gonna risk a fan revolt. Not with him needing to generate revenue. As long as Rex keeps this team competitive, even w/o a SB appearance or win, he'll have a job. Rex might even challenge the oldtimers for longevity. Shula, Stram, Lombardi, Landry, even the sainted Cowher.
He would have lasted until his first pick..there is no denying that either. He would have been booed off the field and if he wasn't replaced Rex would be gone the same week. Don't forget that Idzik didn't want Sanchez.
how many of those guys had proven to be Super Bowl caliber building GM's. someone with experience in no way equates to someone with more talent than another candidate without experience. the retread coach/GM is the safe way. problem is, if those retreads were worth hiring, why are most available. sure, not all coaches and GM's win Super Bowls at their first stop, but the majority that don't and get fired are available because they aren't able. going with experience over ability, if an interview with a rookie in that role reveals that ability, isn't the solution it is the safe pick. it is hard to find great GM's and coaches; if it weren't every team would have them.
