I think Jon Gruden knows what he's doing & my thoughts on Dak Prescott

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  1. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    please, if darnold plays as well as car did and we gave him that contract you'd be estatic
     
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  3. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    Chucky controls the 1st round in the 2019 and 2020 Draft.
     
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    I wonder if they're tearing it down to the studs in order to rebuild around Carr, or if he's a goner and Chucky will pick his own guy next year (who even is the top 2019 prospect, anyway?). Either way, with all those picks, he'll definitely get to build this team entirely in his image. Nowhere to hide if the 2020-2022 Raiders aren't perennial contenders. On a related note, I expect him to be fired by the end of 2022/3, contract be damned.
     
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    I’ve been pretty clear about my low opinion of Chucky, but this seems like a pretty good trade for Oakland. Cooper has been nothing special for a while, and I certainly would have been pissed if the Jets traded a first for him.

    This will obviously make the move to LV less painful - this team is going to be the worst in the league for a while.
     
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    The funny thing is even though Gruden's old-school, he's doing pretty much the same thing as Sam Hinkie did with the 76ers.
     
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    stinkyB 2009 Best Avatar Award Winner

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    He'll be hanging out with Bobby Bonilla at some sandals resort in the Caribbean somewhere
     
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    You realize Bonilla, who hasn’t played major league baseball in 17 years, gets paid about $1.2 million every July 1 through 2035?
     
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    Great gig if you can get it ;)
     
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    Best part is the Wilpons gave their money to Bernie Madoff to finance that deal. #winning
     
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    The Bonilla deal is a great story, but the truth is a lot more subtle than it seems. This article describes it well:

    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...y-bonilla-119-million-today-every-july-1-2035

    If Bonilla had taken his $5.9 million up front and invested it in low cost stock and bond index funds he'd have way more money now than he actually does; he chose the low-risk annuity rather than the higher-risk stock and bond market, which is of course a good decision if you're risk averse. He also gets tax benefits by living in Florida. It's also a cool story to say that the Mets are paying Bonilla every year on July 1, but of course they aren't - they paid for the annuity many many years ago.

    The other point often ignored is what the Mets did with the money. They took Bonilla's salary and gave it to Mike Hampton, who went 15-10 and helped get the Mets to the World Series. That alone makes the deal a good one for the Mets. The bonus is that when Hampton then left the Mets to go to the Rockies as a free agent, the Mets got the 38th pick in the draft - which they turned into David Wright.

    Put it all together and you see that the Bonilla deal actually turned out to be one of the best moves the Mets ever made, not one of the worst.
     
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    I didn't say the Mets were paying him, just said he's getting paid every year.

    That was just a deferred portion of his massive salaries over the years so you have to think he's invested a lot of it.

    It's just funny that he's still getting paid for decades after he retired.
     
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    But there are many many such annuity deals. Every team makes them, but people always focus on the Bonilla deal (hence July 1 being "Bonilla Day") because of how stupid the deal supposedly was for the Mets, when in fact it was a great decision by the team, both immediately (Hampton and the 2000 World Series) and longer term (David Wright). It only had to do with one season's $5.9 million salary, by the way, not salaries over the years.
     
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    “I gotta cell phone and I’m getting a lot of calls from people just dyin to play for the Raidahs.”

    Geezuz what a caricature.

    I hope he called the league office to report the players that are under contract that have called him about playing for him.

    You know.

    Tampering.
     
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    Probably Brandon Marshall telling Gruden he's dying to be the highest-paid WR in the league.
     
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    some scrub qb lighting up the raiders. yea, gruden knows exactly what he's doing
     
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    SCRUB?! Thats Brett Favre Jr out there and he s on FIIIIIIYAHHH
     
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