I like this pick more than I've liked any Jets pick in years

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  1. Big Cat

    Big Cat Well-Known Member

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    You draft players for more than one season, which is why you go BPA.

    Also I think the offense will look inherently better due to the turnovers and improved starting field position they'll be getting this year. There'll be less of a need to go 80+ yards regularly like last year.

    We still need a running back or receiver tonight.
     
  2. dawinner127

    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    Not only the starting field position, but we added another weapon on offense in Marshall and hopefully Decker's hammy holds up and he plays at 100%. That'll make us better as well.

    I do agree though, I would love to address 2 of 3.. OL, WR, and RB tonight.
     
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    Marshall should significantly help in the red zone. Honestly if we weren't so putrid inside the 20 last year we probably would've won a couple more games (I can think of a couple specifically). The offense moved decently well until it stalled in the red zone.

    The problem is I think it might just be that Geno is an awful red zone quarterback, so there's really no changing that. I have no idea where we go at QB from here, I like Fitz as a bridge but for whom is he bridging?
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    One of the bigger problems was we would always get inside the 20 and then we would run that dumb wildcat shit... or not pound Ivory 4 times inside the 5.
     
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    I hate this pick. We could have had our best WR since Keyshawn or our best OLB since ever. Williams will be a solid player at a position we are already strong at. Vic Beasley is a total monster at a position where we have a huge need.
     
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    Love it. Still a lot of talent at WR and RB left.

    DGB and Duke Johnson?
     
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    He's being praised as the best player in the draft so it seems like a steal but it saddens me a bit because it seems to solidify Wilk being traded. One thing is certain though we have crazy talent on the DL if we can find some speed on the edge in the later rounds for some situational pass rushing we could be set.
     
  8. RevisIsland10

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    No brainer pick, JETS got a STEALLLLL.....best talent in the draft dropped to them at 6, no way they could pass on him. Great pick! Now onto round two and three today, CANT WAIT!!!
     
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  9. Matt4776

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    We could still get our best OLB ever.
     
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  10. RevisIsland10

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    Exactly how i felt. When i saw williams drop to us, I was saying he HAS to be the pick, steal of the first round. Per the scouts, we possibly got the best talent in the entire draft at #6....most mocks had him goin anywhere between #2-#4 the latest. If Tennessee passed on MM they would have taken williams at #2 no doubt in my mind.
     
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  11. One eye

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    I'm sorry, but you prefer a one year wonder WR who is old (22) and only lines up on the right side to a 20 year old perennial pro bowler who can impact the game on almost every defensive play? Who dominated college football from day one.

    Good thing Mikey Mac is making the call.
     
  12. FazeOne17

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    Some of you guys are crazy. White had ONE good year in college. You cannot label him the next Julio Jones from one good year. Also, its a deep WR class with plenty of talent available. We made the right pick for once.
     
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    Marshall will not only help in the RZ but all over the field. This guys is a TOP TIER WR. It's also going to realllllly help Decker and Amaro.
     
  14. NCJetsfan

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    Of course you draft them for more than one season. As I said last night, MOST of the time BPA/BAP is the way to go. That said, the draft isn't about the GM getting graded on how smart he is and whether he drafts BPA/BAP or not. It's about improving one's team. The draft doesn't happen in a vacuum. One has to take into consideration one's present roster and how the team has drafted previously. Having great depth is awesome, but not at the expense of having huge holes on your team. In that scenario, awesome depth is a luxury, not a necessity. In the end, it doesn't matter if you build the greatest DL in NFL history if your offense can't score points. Taking Williams last night would be one thing if in four of the last 5 drafts the Jets hadn't already taken a DL with their first round pick, and with all of the last 5 drafts eschewed taking an offensive player and taken a D player instead. IMO at that point in time, a smart GM will balance the scales. He'll see that his offense is weak that previous regimes made the mistake of ignoring the offense and taking too many D players #1, and will take an offensive player, even if it means passing on the "best player in the draft." I do not believe that the Jets didn't get quality trade down offers for the #6 pick. They could have added multiple picks and taken the BPA/BAP at each of them, increasing the odds that they improve the overall talent of the team and hopefully, addressing some needs with at least a few of those picks. The impact of 4 very good players, some at positions of real need, would improve the team's play over one great player.

    Until the team starts getting TOs, they're still one of the worst teams in the NFL at doing so. Until they can consistently get off the field on 3rd down and giving the ball to the offense, they will still be pretty poor at that. Until the Jets' offense can cut down on its own TOs, stop the stupid drive-killing penalties, and prove they can put the ball in the end zone, they're still basically the same offense, with a couple of new players mixed in and a new OC. All we have is hope and expectations. That's what I had going into the draft last night, and they were dashed. Call it bad luck, bad karma, or just plain stupidity, I'm fed up with the team obsessing about D and ignoring the offense.
     
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  15. NCJetsfan

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    It's not a matter of preferring White over Williams. It's a matter of the Jets having spent 4 of their last 5 1st round draft picks on the DL and all 5 on defensive players and ignoring the offense. No matter how good a D is, even an above average offense can always find a way to score. In order to win, your team has to be able to score points, and score more than the opposing team. Unless Bowles is on another level entirely as a defensive coach than Rex, the D is pitching 10 or more shutouts.

    I like White, but was actually hoping that the Jets would have traded down and garnered some extra picks. Making good selections at each of those spots would have done more to improve the team than adding Williams imo. I don't care how good he is, the overall effect on the team's success is more than likely only going to be marginal.
     
  16. GangGreenTay

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    Washington, Oakland, and Jacksonville fans on facebook are furious there teams passed on Leonard. I dont know much about this guy at all (I thought we were getting Amari) but this guys hype is unreal for a defensive player
     
  17. Charlie Kelly

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    If it wasn't for the rookie pay scale Leonard Williams would probably have been the first overall player taken in this draft and we got him at 6, think about that for a minute. The Jets got the biggest steal of the draft bar none
     
  18. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    I'm a stupid fan when ur talking about not rooting for the team anymore because u don't like the draft picks
     
  19. Rockinz

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    The Big Cat was a great pick. They had to get him he was the best player available bar none and is also the best in the draft.

    It was either pick him or move down. I guess Mac didn't get his asking price! I bet he wanted similar to what Buffalo Paid for Watkins last year from a team inside the top 13.
     
  20. pclfan

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    I'd skip Gregory or trade back if he's still on the board and another teams wants him and take a skill position player on O or an O-lineman. Love to start a rebuild of the O-line today!
     

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