you want to suck for another years and wait till 2016???? if we did that again we would win 3 games and pick #3 or something
Name a top 10 QB who wasnt the starter..... In a perfect world youre right, but we live in reality. No team is gonna invest in a top ten pick to sit...Jags said they were this year and we see how quickly that changed. Top of the draft is now and always has been for players ready to play NOW. MM is not that therfore should not be a top 10 pick. Maybe he will develop the NFL level skills over time, but right now today he is not a franchise qb and should not be drafted top 10. You speak of ELITE intangibles and skills. ..where were they last night? Elite is not inconsistent or sometimey, elite shows up game after game. I didnt see an elite qb last night. I saw a pretty good college qb but not an ELITE nfl prospect. How do you get this ELITE thing you keep speaking of?
And Chip Kelly has been here 2 years, that offense has NOT transferred yet. Thats like saying after those two years when the wildcat was popular now all wildcat qbs will do well in the nfl....
He could be Joey Harrington with legs. Harrington was Pac-10 offensive player of the year in 2001. He led the Pac-10 in completion percentage, passing yards, passing TD's and yards per play. In 2000 he was 3rd in completion percentage, 2nd in passing yards and 1st in passing TD's. The context in which Mariota has accomplished what he accomplished was an inflated offensive scheme that relied on leveraging Mariota's mobility and accuracy against over-matched college defenders. He's going to the NFL next year and everything is going to change again. Teddy Bridgewater had 31 TD passes and 4 interceptions in 427 throws at Louisville in 2013. He had 14 TD's and 12 Int's in 402 throws with the Vikes in 2014.
You guys are so in love with Mariota as a person (which I don't understand at all) that you're willing to draft a bad QB just because he's a nice guy lol.
...and no-huddling the other team to death. I dislike gimmicky stuff. I remember Harrington with no fondness. Just a mistake waiting to happen. I have seen Mariota twice, and even though they scored a zillion one week, I am not impressed. If I am the Jets I do not want him
None of the QBs via this draft will save the Jets offense. Better off acquiring a veteran this off-season and look for a QB in the 2016 draft. Been saying this all season that Mariota is overrated and Winston is the better pro QB. I like Mariota's character but he's got a lot going against him in terms of being successful at the next level.
Mariotta sucks, been saying this for awhile now. People had this guy as the #1 pick just yesterday....now we are hearing people say he is not a first rounder, and if you are not a first rounder then you might as well be drafted the 5th or 6th. Either you are a starter or you aren't, if you can start then you are worth a 1st round, but if you cant start, then dont bother. I dont want this kid, the Jets will have a chance or two to draft him. Do not do it.
I agree with MM comment, but it's not fair to compare TB, he was not the starter and was thrown into that role because of an injury, the vikes were actually playing very good ball in December, without an all pro RB, I bet if TB was the starter and had AP, his numbers with Norv as his mentor would have been much better. JMO
You guys are scouting Mariota's offense and not his skillset It's gonna take sometime for him to translate and adapt to the NFL game but he's got the physical tools, work ethic and smarts to make it happen Consistency on the offensive side of the ball(OC, QB Coach, OL and a couple pass catchers) will be the key
This is not true. Here are my cons about Mariota. - Questionable accuracy throwing intermediate and deep balls - Can't throw into tight windows consistently - No experience in a pro-style offense - therefore is he a raw NFL prospect and must sit at least a year or 2. Like I said before, I like Mariota as a person but it's going to be a tough road ahead. I prefer the Jets to stay away from him.
- Questionable accuracy throwing intermediate and deep balls agreed but its something you can work on, I mean are you expecting us to draft a finished product - Can't throw into tight windows consistently why not?? because the offense is designed to get receivers open, I know in the NFL he'll have to do that but more than likely due to his running ability teams will play a lot of zone/spy stuff on him and that will give him wider lanes to throw into - No experience in a pro-style offense - therefore is he a raw NFL prospect and must sit at least a year or 2. his offense again he's not raw, Kaepernick was raw, he's got way more polish and still room to grow
Jameis Winston is NOT a day one starter as well, he has issues with his footwork and seeing the field well. Both Winston and Mariota NEED to sit out for a year , and to say Mariota "sucks" because of a medicore game is ridiculously silly. Had Oregon won by ten, this thread would not have been made and the same guys saying Mariota "sucks" would be all over him. He's an intelligent Quarterback, who knows how to actually read defenses; he needs time and I'm willing to sacrifice next season for the long haul.
^ This Aside from Andrew Luck, most QBs have a steep learning curve coming from college. Because Mariota played in a non-traditional offense doesn't mean he doesn't have the capacity to learn a pro-style offense and be effective. And again, aside from Andrew Luck, just because you draft a QB in the top 10 or first round doesn't mean you have to play him. Coaches who do this are either overreacting to their situation or victims of a stupid front office/ownership. I fully agree with whoever said you draft him at 6, but you don't trade up to draft him.
Hallelujah…Thank goodness the posters on this thread are not Jets scouts. Somehow Andrew Luck, a once in 20+ year prospect, has become the baseline for QBs drafted in the first round.
Sad, but true. Luck was the surest prospect since Peyton. That's it right there. When it comes to Mariota vs. Winston, you're betting on Mariota's intangibles vs Winston's pro-style offense experience. They're both high-football-IQ guys with solid arm talent and pretty good decision-making. Mariota doesn't make as many throws into tight windows - but he does make enough that I see this as more of a product that his offensive scheme doesn't force him to do so as regularly, and his ability to check down to more blantantly-open receivers than a comparative lack of arm talent on his part. Mechanics will need work on both players - Mariota because he hasn't had to do drop-back passing so we haven't had to stare at his footwork as much, Winston because we've gotten the chance and know he needs to work on his footwork. If I'm Tennessee or TB, I lean Winston because his off-the-field issues are less likely to be amplified in a smaller media market than they are in, say, NYC. Actually If I'm Tenn I might give Mettenberger another year, but that's almost a different story. For the Jets, I lean Mariota because I'm not as comfortable psychologically with Winston in the NYC media market, and feel like Mariota has a lower floor.
Plays in an offense that wears down the defense. Cant throw well from the pocket. Not buying him, the fact that this guy couldnt even throw last night within the pocket is alarming. He picked the wrong college to go to, it sure inflated his stats but he did not learn how to be an NFL Quarterback at college.
