Nobody in the NFL trades up in the first round for a running back. If anything, RBs have fallen in the first round as teams realize that college success does not translate to the NFL, RBs are easy to come by, and the shelf life and injury risk for a RB is not worth early first round money or trading away draft picks. If McFadden is there at 6, nobody will want to trade up to get him and the Jets will draft someone else.
I have to seriously question the "trade down" option. If a team was that big on McFadden, I'm sure they'd be calling the Falcons, Chiefs and Raiders about a trade. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be offers, but I doubt they'll be the bounty that some are expecting/hoping in this scenario.
1) "trading down" would be a nice option, but you have to find a willing an eager trade partner 2) no guarantee that Oakland will take McFadden. They drafted Michael Bush last year and Al Davis has been known to do crazy stuff anyway 3) If he's the BPA the JETS should draft him. While linemen are a priority, this team needs talent across the board, and if a fat signing bonus has to be handed out you may as well give it to a guy that will deserve it. Drafting purely for need gets you more overpaid DRobs
I see most posters have said to trade down, but a lot of people have been voting to pick McF as BPA if he is there at #6. I would like to hear why? Support your vote. What is your thought process and justification? There is really know wrong answer; this is an open poll in the "What if" game.
Trading down or Picking McFadden is what I call a good problem to have. The question is if we trade down does anybody have a trading partner for us. I would think they would have to go to Oakland before they got to us to grab Mcfadden.
A lot of the mock drafts out so far have McFadden falling to #6. Part of the reason is need of the teams above #6 and part is that there are other good RB options. As much as I'd like a DL or OL if McFadden is there at #6 I'd have to take him.
I'm in the McFadden as the BPA camp as long the O-line is fixed in some way. Theres a few ways to do it. Sign a RT and LG in FA...sign a G or T and draft the other...draft both (I'd rather not)...
I sort of think we need to trade down regardless....the immediate needs should be filled with FAs.....if we can get a good o-lineman and a good d-lineman via free agency, then our draft picks can go towards the spots where we have a little room for development....another D-lineman and O-lineman. Think about it....if we can score one good player on each line before the draft hits, then take another player on each line in round 2, we'll be looking up going into TC.
Everyone keeps on saying how the Jets "Already have two running backs" Im sorry... But NO we dont! L.Washington is a special player... Great in open space and can make plays but at the same time... He is FAR from an every down back. And is Thomas Jones the future of this Jets backfield? Hell no. Give Thomas Jones another 2-3 seasons and watch the wheels fall off. If McFadden is on the board... Its simple.. We draft McFadden and watch this kid run crazy for the next 8-10 seasons, if not longer.
The reason the Vikings pick of Adrian Peterson worked out (and it's a tenuous worked out atm because of his injury history) is because they put their money where there mouth was on the offensive line first. They resigned two of their longtime linemen (Bryant McKinnie and then Anthony Herrera to long-term extensions, keeping them with the team) and they signed the biggest FA Guard on the market two years ago (Steve Hutchinson) to a long-term contract. On top of that they drafted tackles in the second round two years running in 2005 and 2006. The Vikings could put just about any half-decent back in their backfield right now and he'd look good. Adding Peterson to that made sense because it was building on a strength and turning it into a huge one. The Jets have not done the ground work necessary to make adding McFadden anything more than a huge risk, given all of the other needs on the team and the Jets poor offensive line.
Dude Arkansas sucks they have no qb so everyone just loads up and puts 8 or 9 in the box, D-MAC is going to be a great if he's put in a good situation, which sadly is not us
We dont need a runnin g back so dont draft the guy. We have 2 awesome running backs who need blockers. mcfadden wont do any better than leon and thomas jones with this line.
We should DEFINELTY take him, then demand a 5 yr contract, which his agent will refuse to sign, then let him go back into the draft for '09, then take him again with our #1 pick after going 1-15. That'll prove to the entire NFL that we mean business.
People, it is not that easy to trade down. If McFadden is there it's pretty clear to other teams that we don't need him with all the holes elsewhere on this team, if we did 'want' him we wouldn't be the team that other teams would trade with to get him. The teams in front of us would. Secondly, there is no way the Pat's take him. They are fine at RB. If they had nobody and it was obvious they needed a RB then teams that wanted him would trade down with us. It's just not as easy as people make it sound.
Here's where I could let my trade down option slide. If we did fix our O-line with named talent in FA and McFadden was available at #6; I would not be sickened by the pick. As others have said, Jones is good, but the guy realistically has 2, maybe 3 more seasons, and then we must have a replacement. McFadden now, would at least settle that worry. Again, I would only be happy with this if the O-line was fixed in FA. I wouldn't want to rely on the draft at all, except possibly for some depth. P.S> Your ass is stunning as ever. Looks capable of cracking a walnut..........
I think that there is a good chance he will be there at #6. If Oakland faces a Chris long/McFadden choice I think they will go with the legacy. I actually do not want McFadden, but I think that there is a very good chance he will be there at 6.
Great post. When the Vikes mashed the Jets on the LOS in pre-season, that was a real eye opener. What good is drafting a top RB with no OL? Rebuild the OL and go with T. Jones. When he is done in a couple of years, there will be another "McFadden" coming along in the draft. Trade down and get a better number of good players. There are too many holes to fill, and last year's draft only produced two players. They need to make up for that this year.
Hey, you know that bottle of wine I brought over? Let's break it open. It will go great with the stuffed mushrooms. :grin: edit- oh my bad, that was jonyd who asked that question in the BS forum, not you. Yeah, you're right, finding a trading partner isnt a piece of cake, EXCEPT if it is a team that desperately wants Run DMC.
