...on a team that has an average off./def. ? Of course this w/b a team that lost their starting (& maybe back-up) qb(s) to season-ending injury(s) while all 2nd, 3rd & 4th, etc-tier q/bs' either signed, injured or retired. How would Teeb fair as a full, 16-gm starter? Jus' curious....!
he'd win a few certainly. though if the opposing defense finds a way to shut down the run game he's screwed a bit. he can make the occasional big pass, but he's not great at it. I'd give him 4-8 wins with an average team.(dependent on schedule) he can play clutch, but i'm thinking better teams will keep that possibility from happening from the get go.
I look at the pattern of history here, and I contemplate how a full season held hostage by Tim Tebow and Tebowmania for an ENTIRE season would be. Staring at by bottle of soda on my desktop, I eventually get a glimpse into a parallel universe where the regular season was a couple weeks away. The starting QB of a team got hit by a bus, the second stringer somehow got Leprosy, and Stephen Hawking was unavailable to play QB, so they had to trade the Jets for the only other option possible. The team indeed only had an average offense and average defense. Unfortnately, they didn't have it tailor made to Tebow's game, so the average receivers end up under utilized. Coach sees little choice but to go run-heavy. That is Tebow's strength afterall, and it isn't as if the receivers are known for their Ringling brothers circus catches, which will be problematic for all the ducks thrown either behind them or at their shoelaces. He surprises a few teams early on in the season, many of the teams still working out a defensive identity in new schemes, new players, and often times new coaching. But then after a few weeks, teams remember his passing is sketchy at best, and really only need to take away his running and then they can watch the offense turn to mush for most of the day. He's like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of thing. Worst rated QB in the first 55 min, best in the last 5 min. He will spend the first 3 1/2 quarters helping bury the team in a hole by not accomplishing much of anything. Won't turn the ball over as much other than some fumbles when trying to grind out an extra yard, but play it "safe" for the first 55 minutes or so. Tebow wins a couple of really low scoring games early in the season. But then teams will adjust, remember he can't pass, and shut him down again. The 55 minute to 5 minute ratio of Tebow showing up end up taking their toll with excessive three and outs and far too many incompletions, the defense gets worn and are out of gas by around mid-November. The team will finish by losing 6 out of the last 8 games. His team ends up finishing up at around 5-11 at best. (Yes, I'm feeling generous.) His fans will come out of the woodwork and blame it all on coaching, his receivers, and offensive line that can't block, and it will somehow be the fault of everyone not named Tebow. The team will look around for another QB during the offseason, and his fanbase will whine about that all offseason and bash that team to no end when they likely fall short of the Superbowl since really only one team gets to win it each year. Yes ladies and gentlemen, Tim Tebow is THAT damn good.
He could win you like 7 games. A lot of close wins and some brutal loses. Jets would have beat TENN last year with Tebow at the helm.
Maybe under the right conditions. Like if a couple of teams have half their roster battling the flu or something, you might be able to squeeze out a 7th win with an average offense and average defense. The Broncos got a lot of wins due to a defense giving up 15 points or less in 6 games during Tebow's starts. (Tebow managed to lose one 7 to 3 because he couldn't move the chains.) They also got a lot of wins because, while most teams knew he liked to run... a lot... he still kinda threw teams for a loop with just how much he was willing to do it. Combine that with the rest of the team keeping him in the game where anything can happen at the end, the end result often came out a win. Most of that stopped during his last 5 games going 1-4. Pittsburgh game aside, you can see it start to come apart as early as the Chicago game that ended in a win on a RB going out of bounds leaving the Broncos enough time to tie the game, and then same RB fumbling the ball in OT when he had but one man to beat for a TD. Other than that, Bronco offense really didn't do a god damned thing for well over a month. Now that the league has him figured out, I would fully expect most of his games to look more like that last stretch than the 5 or 6 games after the Detroit debacle. Then again, you can get a pinto to go over 80 under the right conditions. driving downhill with the wind at your back, anything is possible.
This sounds fairly accurate. The only thing I'd add is that his fans would pick out one or two plays that he made over the course of the grand failure and repeatedly use them as proof that he is in fact an NFL QB all the while completely ignoring his blatant incompetence.
Good question. On an average team I think 4-7 would be a good range. The D will fold where getting Tebow the ball late won't do much. Now this is the Tebow we last saw playing QB. If he improves his motion/footwork and things, it's a different story. This is going off what we saw 2 years ago now. There would be some close exciting wins, there would be some brutal blowouts. If everything were average, 4-7 is a good range. It also depends on schedule. If his team ends up playing high powered offense, expect more losses. If his team ends up playing the Cardinals and JEts and teams like that, expect some close wins.
Also needs to improve the reading of defenses in short to mid range passing zones. Teams aren't going to allow him to feast on his running ability anymore, and he can only survive on just chucking the ball downfield so much. His Teboner fans don't think his completion percentage is important. But it goes hand in hand with the three and outs, and the low production from the offense. You can win games that way if the defense can keep up with it, but when playing teams that have quarterbacks like Tom Brady, you REALLY gotta stay on the field longer. Completing more passes means staying on the field longer. Or else you can expect 45-10 blowouts in games that are over by the end of the first quarter. You just can't expect an average defense to keep opponents to 2 scores or less every week. The Broncos managed it thanks to a schedule, but the offense did them no favors for most of the time during that stretch. Yet Tebow mopped up most of the credit from many.
He got his series against Tennessee did you see he he did? The jets would have won one maybe two games with Tebow.
Tim went 9-7 playing with a group that included one of the best left tackles in football, two hall of famers on the defensive side of the ball, one of the best pass rushers in the league, the defensive rookie of the year, one of the better young receivers in the league...given an average defense and offense, probably 5-11 or 6-10 not unlike Sanchez. I know that the losses won't be Tim's fault though. The GM and coach will be so jealous of him they will get tattoos and lose on purpose.
Well, Tebow fans can rest on his record being a winning one. While he goes three and out on his career, they can celebrate that he finished with a 9-7 record of a win over .500. ...and if his kook fringe fanbase misses seeing him play, there is always youtube for them to live in the past. Not gonna be making many new memories in the NFL other than a few token wild-cat plays... IF he stays in the league at all. Hope they enjoy the Arena league. Plenty of dirt missiles to be had there, and he doesn't even have to worry about punting so much due to shortened field. Lots more field goal attempts. He might even have a shot to score an average of more than 20 points per game that way even with that shitty completion percentage. With less guys on the field, he might be less confused and actually be able to hit a receiver a bit more often. ...maybe.
At least AFL fields have netting around them. This will keep more of his passes in the field of play. His fans will then point to that as proof he has improved. lol
