What worries me most about 3-4 is that not only does it require a strong NT but that same NT will never pick up decent stats. So not only do you need to be lucky to find a beast to constantly fight through double or even triple-team but you also need to get lucky to have the right personality for NT. The no stats is a lot to overlook because it will affect how many look at your career after you retire. Just googled and found only one NT in the HOF and he played in the 1960s (Bill Willis). There is just no damn way only one great player ever lined up @ NT & I'm sure other players realize it.
Agreed. Giving up their 2nd and 5th selections to trade up for Revis was fine- he's a once in a generation talent. Signing Woody and Faneca to the line were great moves that paid off immediate dividends. Even Calvin Pace was fine. What wasn't fine, IN RETROSPECT, were the following: Trading a 3rd and 5th for Jenkins, trading a 3rd for Harris, trading a 2nd for Antonio Cromartie, trading a 3rd and 5th for Braylon Edwards.. All these just added up to depleting our core talent.
proving that a shut down corner is overrated and it starts with 4 down lineman that can rush the passer with having average corners
second round picks dont seem to turn out too well for the Jets - last good player we took in the 2nd round was in 1999! edit: though this may be because we have not had very many of them to play with! actually looking back very few of our later round picks have panned out - looking back over all our drafts since 2000 and our later round draft picks (rounds 4, 5, 6 and 7) have in total produced maybe 6 or 7 decent players. We have far better production out of UDFAs than we do late round draft picks.
The Harris & Cromartie moves weren't really bad..... would you consider them drafting a player of his talent in the 2nd rd a bad move? I wouldn't, maybe aside from cap ramifications. The Harris & Edwards ones were simply because of where they were in regards to their contract / career timeline..... one was near the end of a career, the other near the end of a contract.
Why would the Jets even think of responding to anything the Giants do? Hell, they don't even play in the same conference, let alone the same division.
This thread is a classic Jets fan overreaction. If Baltimore plays SF in the SB, does that mean the Jets offseason is different from a NE-NYG SB? Why would it change anything? Ridiculous.
Not really but it would take a little of the sting off what was a disappointing season, ESPECIALLY if the Giants were knocked off by the Niners! Could really care less whether the Pats win it or not(although I would be rooting against them) just so long as the Giants aren't there in the end.
Jenkins injury absences were a great disappointment though not unexpected. But the whole attitude of the defense changed after his arrival. Who's to say how much he helped Pouha? He showed the defense how to get the 3-4 done at a critical time in Mangini's regime. His leadership even when not playing was apparent so I really can't say his signing was a mistake.
The Jets should only respond to their own problems and the trends of the overall nfl, not a specific team. Right now in the playoffs there are two teams who are built like we want to build our team, and two teams that have QB's that have already won super bowls carrying their team. This alone should prove Rex's ground and pound approach can work and be effective in getting Byes/Home Field if we follow it. We need to correct our problems and not worry about anything else because after Feb. 5th everyone is 0-0 again.
Correct, and during that entire decade-plus of drafts that yielded such a limited crop of talent, the scouting department experienced not one true shakeup in personnel. They played Musical Jobs. Now the turd who was mainly responsible for the final decisions in scouting and personnel during Herm's Reign Of Humor, is the chief field scout. We need a better scouting department, or in the least an infusion of fresh eyes and minds.
This is true without a doubt. Whenever I watch the Saints play, I see Colston making catches and going all out, and I think THIS GUY PLAYED HIS WHOLE COLLEGE CAREER ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE JETS TRAINING FACILITY! How did the Jet scouts miss him? Didn't they hear some talk about him, and maybe just walk across the street to take a peek? This is just one example of many that, in my opinion, shows Jets scouting is sub par, and has been for some time.
You're comparing 4 players to 1 player. Of course pass rush is worth more than one shutdown corner. It also requires multiple players to pull off.
I sill think of statement of "We didn't think there were many players worthy of 1st rd grades in this draft" as he trades the farm to get Dslob..... while unworthy players like Troy Polomalu were chose when the Jets had their original picks..... speaking of safeties Bryan Thomas was a much better choice than Ed Reed.... who came up in the clutch in the playoffs AGAIN this weekend I was thinking this watching the game on Saturday as well....... One of Kotite's only good moves was giving some scrappy little kid across the street a chance. :breakdance:
Hopefully, the Giants run reinforces the fact that you don't give up on your franchise quarterback after three seasons.
U certainly do realize that the NYJs have been trying to get better since 01/13/69. Just check on all those stars we have drafted # 1 & 2 since we won the SB3 & you easily see why we are non elite team. :sad:
