we can absolutely fix the jets in 1 season. hell we just did 2 years ago. We aren't nearly as bad off as people think. we can save a ton of money. revis paycut, breno gone, clady gone, harris paycut, mangold paycut, marshall paycut. Draft fournette with our top pick then look to the o-line and DC the rest of the way. sign another good DB. As long as we can rebuild the o-line, get decent QB play from hack hopefully, and rely on our run game with powell, forte, and fournette we will be good. our front 7 is still really good. we have good RBs and good WRs. i think TE will be better for us with a healthy ASJ. and before anyone trashes the fournette pick. powell will be 29 next season. forte will be 32 and is cheaper to keep but will be gone in 2018. so in 2018 do you want to rely on a 30 year old powell? fournette is an Adrian Peterson like back. look what elliot did for dallas this year as the 4th overall pick and scouts say fournette is better.
Jets are going to go with either FA pickup or a draftee at both tackle positions. If that sounds like a fix - Oh lord. Maybe that is the right thing to do, given the current state of the team, but it won't be a 1-year solution you claim.
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I went over the roster for shits and giggles these are the guys I could see coming back ... On Offense Petty, Hack. Powell, Forte. Bostick, ASJ. Decker, Quincy, Robby, Jalin, Peake, Devin (rookie contract) Carpenter, Johnson, Winters, Shell, Ijalana, Qvale. On Defense WIlk, WIlliams, Mclendon, Simon, Thomas (played well before the injury) Lee, Harris (vet min) Mauldin, Jenkins, Carter, Lemonier. Pryor Middleton. Burris, Skrine, Roberts, Williams. Folk. Edwards. Purdum. 38 guys in total that leaves 15 spots up for grabs between the draft and free agency let's see what MM can do. I could maybe see Henderson and Gilchrist sticking out their contract. Cutting the rest of the guys puts us at around 50 mil in cap space to re-tool.
You make it sound so easy. Trying to fix the Jets in one season is what gave us this sorry product in the first place.
Why does anyone think cutting Harris down to the vet minimum is even an option? Not only was he our best linebacker this year but he was one of the better players on our team. Harris may drop off in a year or two but is still playing at a high level.
Well the reality is they have to fix the Jets in 1 season, or they'll be unemployed, so get ready for the same cycle of failure, may be even worse next season desperate people do desperate things, they have to put a winning product on the field, sell seats.
I would first start by cutting/trading Marshall and Richardson for ruining the locker room. Then cut all the incompetant players making big bucks: Revis/Fitz/Giacomini. Restructure our good, but overpaid guys like Mangold and Harris.
I think that the cycle of mediocrity will just continue. Here is the won-lost records for the Jets since Woody took over: Al Groh 9-7 Herm 10-6, 9-7, 6-10, 10-6, 4-12: 39-41 Mangini 10-6, 4-12, 9-7 23-25: Ryan 9-7, 11-5, 8-8, 6-10, 8-8, 4-12: 46-50 Bowles 10-6, 5-11: 15-17 Total: 132-140 We have an owner who tolerates mediocrity and until he goes I'm afraid it's just going to be the same. Ron
Cimini: "Players have said locker-room discord was an factor in the Jets' performance, but coach Todd Bowles refused to buy that. "To say that was a problem and the reason for us losing, that would be a bad excuse," he said." Well, I'm willing to believe it wasn't the problem, but just wtf WAS the problem? Do you know? I'm afraid he doesn't: Cimini: "Jets coach Todd Bowles said he never feared for his job. He said owner Woody Johnson "never gave me the impression in our conversations my job was in jeopardy. Obviously, he has the right to change his mind, but Woody backed me the whole time and I'm proud that he did."" So as I said, as long as the owner tolerates mediocrity, that's what we'll have. Bowles never feared for his job? Are you shitting me? After the defense laid down in the first quarter of the Indy game, he didn't fear for his job? And Woody backs him the whole time? Woody should have a lit bunsen burner under his ass (at a minimum). Ron
After the season ended I came up with a list of people I would cut or trade Cuts : Clady, Revis, Giacomini, Gilchrist, Khiry Robinson (3rd broken leg), Erin Henderson (think he is battling with alcoholism), David Harris, Buster Skrine Trade: Sheldon Richardson, Brandon Marshall (both can go for whatever we can get for them) cap space is needed, Calvin Pryor. Restructures - Mangold (I would prefer we restructure and have him retire here, still think he can provide good center play, if he does not want to restructure, cut him and save 9 m in cap). In all I think we will end up with 40 - 60 million in cap. If we can land Tyrod Taylor that would be great, and try to focus on o-line in free agency since this year's draft is weak on Oline.
I'm pretty sure dallas didn't see dak and zeke as a 1 year solution either. Landing the right players go a long ways. Just because it's not common doesn't mean it can't happen. Even if it doesn't it's still a step in the right direction.
The Jets have been "fixed" like 6 times already in the Woody Johnson's ownership in 2002, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2014 and 2015. "Fixing" defined as signing or trading for at least 6 vets with more than 2 years experience in the NFL to play important roles. I left players with less than 2 years experience off the list because that's effectively a continuation of the draft. The Jets personnel dept liked a guy and when he was cut free or practice squadded by his drafting team they picked him up. I left kickers and punters off the list because they are typically vet free agents when you get them and that's the norm, not the exception. The years the Jets went for a quick fix they averaged 8.5 wins a season and made the playoffs 3 out of 6 years. The years following a quick fix the Jets averaged 7.5 wins a season and made the playoffs 2 out of 6 years. The second year after a quick fix the Jets averaged 8.8 wins a season and made the playoffs 3 out of 5 years. We don't know yet what the second year after the 2015 fix will look like but the odds are that it will lower the averages some. The point of all this is that you can make a splash with a quick fix but you can't guarantee a competitive team and you almost certainly wind up with a less competitive team the year after you make the fix. This is the merry-go-round the Jets have been stuck on for almost two decades now. I didn't run the numbers but I am guessing that the Parcells window will look much the same in a relative sense given the large number of changes he made his first two years and what happened in 1998 and then through 2000. You can't fault Parcells for the moves he made because he turned the Jets around in the process and anybody can get unlucky with Tony Romo's back going out in camp because he's old and injury prone. Oops, meant Vinny...
Never said it was easy, Just said it's possible. we went from 4-12 to 10-6 in year. Dallas just went from a decent team to the 1 seed in 1 season with the addition of a rookie 4th round QB and a rookie RB. Hell even 6 years ago we went from a 4-12 team to the AFC champ game with a rookie QB.
Dallas didn't do that in 1 season. They spent the past 5-6 years seriously committing themselves to building that Oline. Then they spent a luxury pick on as Zeke and got lucky as hell with Dak. Without spending years building that monster Oline, neither Zeke nor Dak are in the conversation. Just like without the Jets spending serious draft criteria in a strong OL draft in 2006, the Jets don't sniff the AFCC in '09/'10.
The Cowboys success took at least 6 seasons to build into, starting with the draft of Dez Bryant and Sean Lee 1&2 in 2010. The La'el Collins freebie was just an extraordinary value add last year and that really put them over the top.
