Actually, considering he adds nothing here, nothing of value anyway, I just put him on ignore. I recommend that approach for all concerned here.
The Petty pick was an attempt to get a good young backup QB to groom. That's what all 4th round QB picks are. The only way that pick can be held against the Jets is if they made it thinking he might be their QB of the future. That might happen but the odds are long against it. Having him turn into a 3 year backup they can rely on is a reasonable proposition.
The Jets had three agendas going into this season: 1. Successfully transition out of the Rex regime. 2. Somehow spend a huge amount of cap space to meet the 89% rule. 3. Win some games to shut the billboard guys down before they caused real damage. They've done all 3 of them at this point and Maccagnan is a big part of pulling that off. I think the free agent dollars could have been spent a bit better but it's not like the market was brimming with players you want to commit $81M too. I'm thinking we have to see next year's off-season and draft before we can even think about putting a negative spin on what the Jets did this year. I'm not big on spending a huge amount on the outside but Brandon Marshall has been worth every penny of the $9M he's getting. He's a big part of why the Jets are relevant again, for all his flaws he's a big plus player.
I'd agree with you in 95% of the cases, but there are times when you pick a QB in the 3rd, 4th or 5th round who simply are too raw to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. They have the arm, intelligence, talent, they have everything you're looking for but it's a huge adjustment for them because they ran a completely different offense in college. That's the challenge with them. Guys like Tyrod Taylor, the guy the Packers just drafted (Hundley), Petty, with those guys you're hoping that one year, two or 3 years later they can develop into a good starting QB. And then you have those typical career backups who are maxed out before they even enter the draft, zero upside, and have zero shot to make it in the NFL as a starter. Matt Simms, guys like that. Petty I think is ready to play now. He said he's ready last week. How could he not, he's been studying film with Fitz from day one. If you could pick like 5 QB's to learn the game from, somebody to explain defenses, study film etc. Fitz has to be in that group.
The guys who are too raw to play mostly won't smooth out the edges enough to be a starting QB in the NFL. Once opponents get lots of film on them they're going to break down as the opponents exploit their flaws. This is one of the things that happened to Geno, alongside getting hit too hard too often and playing with a revolving group of mediocre receivers. A backup QB is harder to figure out because you just don't have enough info to really exploit his weaknesses. When you get him in the game against you you're doing whatever you can to rattle his cage and see if you can bring out the weaknesses likely to be there. So taking a guy like Petty to be your backup gives you some continuity and if he develops that's great but if he doesn't, well his flaws won't kill you in limited exposure.
Leonard Williams has looked good. Devin Smith has struggled, but scored yesterday. Could lead to good things. Mauldin has been a beast when he got the opportunity to. Petty was a QB. Even if he blows, that was the right pick. I cant complain about his draft. If Harrison or Simon ever become legitimate players, all the better. He gets no blame from me. I would have preferred to kick the Cromartie money to Wilkerson, but I dont know if that would work salary cap wise.
I'm sure the Jets would have preferred to kick the Cro money to Wilkerson also but it seems like he's looking for a huge deal. We all are beginning to understand that using lots of high draft picks on one side of the ball weakens the team over time. It's the same thing with the cap. Spending a lot of money on one side of the ball is going to weaken the team over time. I don't know what the right answer is but the market for second contracts may make Wilkerson too pricey for the Jets. The guys who are good, and he's very good, who hit the market after their first contract almost always get significantly overpaid in the process. The guys who get re-signed as necessary players almost always get overpaid in the process. The only answer may be to try to leverage a high pick out of a team before he hits the market. Even that is kind of iffy, since the same dynamic that is working against the Jets will also be working against whomever they try to trade with. The Jets also won't want to let him go in close proximity because you don't want a guy with his skills on a mission every time he's playing the Jets. Although that last seems kind of a non-factor given Wilkerson's motor, which is usually on.
The season has been ok. A new staff has to find its way. It is impossible to evaluate coaching in the modern NFL when a team doesn't have a top quarterback. Fitz. is a stopgap and it will take time to develop a young one. This nonsense about bringing in a another older one leaves me cold. Mac. seems to know his stuff. He needs a few drafts and free agencies to get what he wants. I hope he has plenty of job security so he is not under pressure to do something rash ala Brett Favre.
It depends upon why they are "raw." Mariota was considered to be "raw" or incapable of playing in the NFL by some posters/fans, and if I'm not mistaken, you were one of them. The only reason he was considered raw was because of the spread offense he played in. The same goes for Petty. He has everything else you want in a QB. His understanding of the QB position isn't "raw." His physical abilities aren't "raw." All he has to do is learn the offense and learn to read NFL Ds. As smart as he is, my money's on him being the Jets QB of the future.
Seriously? Were you not paying attention last year? Mac HAD to spend that money. It was mandated by the NFL to meet the cap rules. If you were paying attention, you'd know that for the most part, he spent it wisely. Almost all the players he signed can be released after this season or next with zero cap hit. He helped keep the team respectable and give the fans something to root for while he's building a real winner. He took Williams because he was the BPA at that point in the draft, and many "experts" said that he was the best player in the draft not named Mariota or Winston. The only logical reason that Mac hasn't signed Mo to a new contract is that he and/or his agents are asking for waaaaaaaay too much money. I hope that I'm wrong and that something can be worked out, but Mac's too smart to have just ignored Mo unless he's bigoted towards Muslims or something equally bizarre. Based on what we've read about him, what we've seen in his actions and decisions, that seems unlikely in the extreme. I think the only area that can be criticized is the $24 million spent on Cro and Revis. Evidently Bowles wanted Cro, but Cro is one of the players who can be released after this season with no cap hit. Revis can still play at a high level even though he's lost a step or two. I still don't think that he or any CB is worth $16 million per, but it helped make us immediately more respectable after last season's clusterfuck at CB. You don't know that we could have signed Mo and Richardson. That's pure speculation on your part. Even though they're both excellent players, that probably would have been too much money to invest on the DL when neither is an NT, and the Jets have shit at OLB, the most important position in a 3-4 alignment. If Mac had gone with Williams, Walls, Milliner, McDougle and whatever street FA at CB, he would have been crucified by the media and Jets fans alike for not addressing what was awful last season. In addition the team could be sitting with 0 wins at this point. It may be another way to look at it, but if so, you're looking with both eyes closed.
There's a huge difference in talent level between Mariota and Petty, which is why one of them was a high 1st round pick and the other had the entire league pass on him 3 times. All of that said, I know you're a Mariota fan and his numbers look really good but he's quick-tossing a lot of the time in the flats and I wouldn't be surprised to see the NFL catch up to that over time, assuming he can stay healthy. The Titans really need to give him a good line to work with or they're going to lose him to the beat down.
My bad. I didn't realize the NFL mandated that Macc HAD to spend the money on NEW players. I thought he could have used some of that cap windfall to lock up our own home-grown talent.
Don't try to have a rational discussion with Brad about QBs. Hated Mariota. Thinks Carr's ceiling is a journeyman. Hated Teddy. Winston was a risk. Of course he doesn't like Petty. I feel very good about Petty as our future. Big kid, huge arm, accurate, athletic and has real leadership skills. And I think he has the football IQ, the work ethic, the dedication and the humble personality to become competent in a pro style offense in fairly short order and to excel not long after that. _
I agree that there's a pretty sizable difference in talent level between Mariota and Petty. Of course the Titans need to give him a good OL to protect him, but then that's true for every team and every QB isn't it?
That, by far, is the biggest question about ANY arm talent coming out of college. The whole mental aspect. And Petty had never (had the opportunity) to show ANYTHING that would lead a reasonable person to write that about him. What, exactly, are you basing it on? The time he came in for Fitz and beat NE? Like you I love the kid but unfortunately it's gonna take a good year of playing in the NFL before anyone can say Petty has the right football IQ .
If I wasn't clear, I apologize. I don't think they mandated that the money had to be spent on "new" players, just that it had to be spent on players. I think he could have used some of it on Mo. That said, if Mo wants Watt money, I don't blame Mac for not paying him, I don't care how good he is. A 3-4 DE is not a key position. It's not worth Watt money any more than CB is worth $16 million a year. The best teams invest their biggest money in QBs, pass rushers, and perhaps stud RBs or WRs, not DL, not OL, not DBs. Every team has a salary structure. It's not just a matter of paying players what they want or think they deserve. If he had paid Mo a huge amount then they may not have had the cap space to pay Richardson or perhaps a prime QB if we're lucky enough to find one soon. I think it was too early to think about re-doing Richardson's contract.
EVERY talking head said Winston and Mariota (especially Mariota) will need at LEAST a year, maybe 2, before taking a snap in the NFL. But both are starting and doing pretty good. Neither is getting killed and ruining their future. Sooooo.....maybe going with Petty next year ain't such a bad idea (unless Fitz wins the SB).
