The biggest problem Douglas has right now is that he is in control of the rebuild but not the message. The reality is that the Jets are likely to be a bad team next year. Not 0 wins bad but probably 3 to 7 wins bad. That's where teams that lose a lot of games and then draft a QB wind up the following year. The Cowboys drafted Troy Aikman and then they went 1-15. With Jimmy Johnson coaching the disaster. Why didn't Johnson get run out of Texas? Because the Cowboys marketed the rebuild. They even made a huge trade away from the year when they sent Walker packing. As they were doing the trade the word rebuilding was in the air. The word rebuilding should be all over the Jets brand and messaging right now. Douglas should be saying it, the owners should be saying it, it should be impossible for the media not to be saying it because everybody else is saying it. What was the messaging this spring? There's no playoff mandate. Well, that was a bad message. The message should have been we're in a 2 year rebuilding process and hope to contending in 2022, 2023 at the outside. That message would have made a huge difference in terms of the fans expectations and would have caused much less disappointment early in the year before it became crystal clear what rebuilding looked like. Keep expectations low and then market the highlights that actually occur. This year that would have been: Becton is a stud, we're going to have a high pick next year and there's a lot of star potential at the top of the draft.
Yeah because going 0-16 is how you build a team JD wasn’t actually trying to go 0-16 btw. This isn’t a savvy like a fox situation that many seem to be trying to convince themselves. He just did that bad of a job.
The guy has had one full offseason and his first two picks both look like pro bowlers. He didn't hire Gase or draft Darnold. Let him get his coach and his QB and see how things go.
It seems to have worked for the Browns. The last time they were above .500 was 2007. They're on a 12 win pace and the last time they won 12 games or more was 1986.
How is going 0-16 preventing Douglas from building the team he wants? You are going to have to argue how it does so to roll your eyes, otherwise your snideness only reflects you have no idea what you’re talking about. My money is on the latter.
We weren’t trying to go 0-16. your optimism is blind. Might want to look in mirror before calling someone snide too
Not the discussion or your claim. Don’t deflect, answer the specific question directed towards your specific claim.
Browns fired every one and it’s taken a few years. We were in same position as Browns a few years ago, and have gotten worse not better.
My claim that JD has done a terrible job so far? Thar you don’t build a team by doing your job so badly you end up possibly worst team in NFL history? Just look at where they are man. I’m for some optimism but it’s getting ridiculous. There’s a chance to eventually turn it around, but the criticism is very warranted.
Going 0-16 is probably the best reason to trade out of the #1 pick and use that truckload of draft picks to build a legitimate team top to bottom. THEN worry about getting that last player, a FQB. 0-16 says we are NO WHERE NEAR having a competitive team. Bringing in a rookie QB and saying "Here ya go...we expect big things from you and we expect you to pilot this 0-16 steaming pile of horseshit to the SB!!! Go get em kid!!! Dont let us down!!" would ruin Trevor as fast as anything.
The only problem with this plan is TLaw (or Fields even) will be sitting in our laps and he’s one of the best QB prospects in a while. Ideally it would be the other way but you have to play the hand you’re dealt. We have a ton of picks and cap money so I don’t think he will be in a terrible situation. No one is expecting him to be the savior off the bat either. My plan would be to put just about every asset this year into the Oline and weapons for the rookie QB. The defense as a whole can wait, but we cannot fail another young QB with nothing around him on offense. It’s a must.
Ok. That still doesn’t show that going 0-16 prevents building a team. you made a very specify claim yet, and were brazenly snide in doing so, yet you seem unable to actually defend that claim. I’m beginning to think you weren’t actually rolling your eyes to be snide, they simply roll haplessly around your head.
This isn't baseball; if you build a stacked team, it only lasts for a couple years. You need to get the QB at the same time as you start building the roster so you have a SB contender at the end of the QB's rookie deal.
At first I was going to roast you for suggesting Mims looks like a pro bowler when he’s played for 5 seconds and done nothing, but then I realized jets fans probably wouldnt know what a pro bowler even looks like so how can I blame you?
That's a great hackneyed LOLJets joke from someone who has never seen a playoff win on an HD TV. The kid has played six games and is averaging 17 yards per catch with the worst QB play in the league.
I agree that it's understandable that they think that way. For any of us who have been Jets fans for more than 10-15 years, the Jets have long driven us crazy. Darnold was highly touted, but was never considered a generational prospect, and didn't have the pedigree that Lawrence does. Gase was a stupid hire, as was Mac. Douglas has already begun addressing the Jets' glaring needs on the OL and at WR. It doesn't matter that it wasn't communicated that way. It wasn't communicated any certain way. In taking Lawrence and trading Sam, we will be hitting the reset button on the QB contract. As we're seeing, we have some good young players. With the right HC hire, and another good offseason, the Jets should be competitive next season, and then with another good offseason in 2022, the Jets should be a playoff contender.
I'm trying to think how Seattle or the Rams could lose to us, but I think if the Rams lose next week it's another chance for a team we play to lose BEFORE we play them. Has happened 3 weeks in a row.
