I and NFL scouts disagree with you... Geno looked lost, he didn't understand what he was doing back there for the most part...big difference. When Geno was comfortable he looked good
I think I made it very clear that I do understand that people see things differently. Me saying that about my head was not a literal sentiment, sorry that I confused you. As far as your "breakdown" goes, you were right on some of them. He still had an amazing game overall against Miami. If I'm not mistaken he had a couple career highs in that game, no? Some of the things that you are accusing him of, like throwing behind his receiver, a lot of those throws I'm sure are intentionally behind his receiver based on the secondary coverage. Example - Your first knock. Throwing behind the receiver. What was the coverage on that play? Was there a corner underneath the route? Was the corner playing high? Those things factor in and I'm willing to bet that there was probably a zone coverage with the corner underneath and the safety high, which in turn would require a throw to the opposite shoulder. I just doubt you factored in all of those things.. I remember the safety though, that was a boo boo, he should have never tried play action play with the corner sitting so close to the inside like he was. He had no time to react, it was just a bad play. They happen. The rest of the game was another story though, wasn't it?
I really don't think people know what accuracy and ball placement means. Bridgewater's greatest attribute is his accuracy and his ability to place the ball where only his receiver has a chance at it
For that specific play, I'd have to go back and re-watch. Wrote that in December. I wasn't even worried about the safety. Should he have seen it? Yes. Do I think it's a situation he will face often? No. That's why I didn't bold it.
It's just something I recalled from the game, don't take me so literally man. I'm not fighting you in person. I was just entertaining your post with what I could remember from that game. That's all. You are more than entitled to your opinion, I'm just making people aware of things that I've seen and trying to explain why I disagree with some views on this board. If I change a few views in the process, awesome. If not, maybe you/others can change my outlook. It happens. I have watched a lot of Bridgewater though, so I have a stronger opinion in this thread than I probably would have in the Jordan Matthews thread. I think that Bridgewater has fantastic accuracy, I think he needs to work on seeing a route as it develops on the deep ball from time to time, those kind of things are hard though and usually just come with experience. I know he would sometimes over throw a receiver because he didn't fully see the disruption that was caused by a db or lb that stalled the route by a half second. His timing is fantastic though, it's the adjustments that need tweaking. IMO If I had a knock it would probably be that. Otherwise he is a sure fire QB in my eyes with a very high ceiling. Think about it, the kid hasn't even fully grown into his body yet, very young, with everything you look for in a franchise signal caller. I just don't think whoever takes this kid is going to be disappointed.
If you mean he has a lot of overthrows and great sideline catches on deep routes I'll agree with you on that. Part of being a successful deep passer is having the touch to put the ball in a covered receivers pocket on the fly. Bridgewater doesn't have that touch. His deep throws are a combination of under throws to a wide open receiver and over throws that the receiver occasionally brings down. Now and then he makes a really good deep throw but his accuracy on those throws in general is poor.
IIMeanDeanII Yeah, I like his timing, too. He definitely knows when to throw it to who. I agree, and that's what I like about him most. I also think he has good skills in almost every other category that I feel like I can observe just watching the game: arm strength, athleticism, pocket awareness... he's a good, heady prospect.
His deep throws need work, I think it is a combination of lower body mechanics, timing and too much touch
Woah. He doesn't have that touch? He throws one pretty deep ball and usually it's either out of reach or right in the pocket. I don't see under throws being an issue at all. What games did this stick out to you?
Every full game that I watched there were accuracy issues. "Great catch by [Parker/Rogers/etc]" was a non-stop occurrence. There were throws made behind crossing receivers, throws that forced screen receivers to catch the ball facing their own goal-line, throws nearly picked in traffic. In every game. He's a good prospect but the guy he reminds me the most of at this point is Geno Smith. The difference between the two of them is that Bridgewater played in a hybrid spread most of the time and Geno played in an air raid spread.
A lot of hype about the Browns taking him... I even bought in... BUT It might be a smoke screen for Bortles! One thing DJ said on the NFL network when he was a scout in Cleveland they wanted a big QB in the mold of Big Ben or Flaco to put up with the wear and tear in the AFC north. That doesn't fit Johnny Footballs MO at all...
Don't bother arguing with these guys. They'll read a synopsis of his deficiencies (everyone has some) and they'll make up plays that were slightly off or that weren't Tom Bradyish. In college. If you watched any of his games you'll see he is incredibly accurate and has great touch. Dudes not high on him don't want to draft a QB this year. They are mesmerized by last years draft class. Comical. _
I don't know what your looking at, I find it off that former NFL scouts disagree with you on that. What I find more agregious is that you would compare him to Geno. Bar none one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen typed on a keyboard regarding Bridgewater. If we had Bridgewater this year, we would have been in the playoffs. Geno's strength is his deep ball... Everything that is geno's weakness is Bridgewater's strength 1. Bridgewater's accuracy and timing on routes is top notch 2. His pocket presence is top notch 3. I don't know what you are looking at
Geno apologist. Take it for what it is. Anyone that would compare Teddy to Geno would seriously compare Teddy to..........Brady Quinn. Yeah. That guy. Lololololol. _
I don't see issues with touch with Bridgewater. I think he changes speeds well when the occasion calls for it, at least that's what I've seen. Also, the two plays I singled out as excellent plays were both examples of nice touch on corner routes. That's one thing that's funny to me about Teddy, his best throw is the corner. Same thing in the Houston game... A bunch of stationary targets, WR screens, incompletions, and checkdowns, then he hits a gorgeous corner route over a FS prospect I love Trevon Martin to Parker.
Go back and watch some of the compete game videos of Geno Smith at WVU. Same thing. The difference is that Geno was playing with guys with small catch boxes and nailing them on the deep stuff and in stride. Or overthrowing badly, like Bridgewater. There was nobody at WVU who had the overall ability as a receiver that Devante Parker has. Austin was a very fast and quick smurf whose specialty was taking the ball to the house after the catch, the throws to him had to be good or he wasn't going to do that. Bailey was kind of slow and kind of small and stuff just stuck to him like glue when Geno threw one in his back pocket when he was covered tightly (again and again.) The reason Geno and Bailey worked so well together is that they'd been together since high school and Geno knew that if he threw a contested ball to Bailey the guy would most likely come down with it. I really don't see all that much difference between Geno and Bridgewater. They're both Miami QB's with a gunslinger's mentality and some real mobility that they prefer not to use. They both have some accuracy issues down the field.
