How far could Teddy Bridgewater slip?

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  1. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    How do you know he didn't pick up the habit until he got into the league?

    What you are mentioning here has nothing to do with the fact that Russel had one of the better pro-days ever.

    I don't put much stock into pro-days, because at the end of the day, when a pass-rusher is breathing down your neck their technique could completely change. It doesn't measure pocket pressure or anything like that
     
  2. Jay Bizniss

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    He will be there at 18 and God help us if Idzik decides to take him.
     
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    if he's there at 18 then God is helping us
     
  4. All Gas No Shake

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    what is your point about his pro day? russell ended up being terrible because he was a drug addict

    fair point, thats why most people look good at their pro days ... i dont put much stock in great pro days, but that is not what were discussing here

    struggling to hit receivers in stride without "a pass-rusher is breathing down your neck" is concerning because his technique isnt going to miraculously improve once defenders are looking to take his head off
     
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    Teddy should still be a top 10 pick. His pro day wont determine his draft stock much. Private work outs will decide his fate.
     
  6. Br4d

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    The wind blowing out of Louisville's Pro Day was that TB was less than impressive. Given that he did not throw at the combine that's going to count against him if true. There's so much smoke blowing around the QB's at this point. I'm not sure I believe any of it.
     
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    The issue here is Pro-days in correlation to NFL success. Pro-days and NFL success do not correlate one bit. That's my point, it has nothing to do with Russell being a drug addict or whatever.

    Sam Bradford had one of the best pro-days ever also, he's on the verge of being a bust. The point is to not take much stock into Pro-Days.

    Bridgewater may have shit the bed during his Pro-day, but this won't correlate to his NFL success (or if he busts).

    In college, Bridgewater was one of the best QBs when blitzed. Let's not forget that.
     
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    you keep pointing to the people who had great pro days but didnt do well in the league ... name me some QBs that struggled at their pro day and turned into quality starters
     
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    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2014/03/louisvilles_teddy_bridgewater.html

    Here's another link.

    http://nfldraftgeek.com/nflprodayshistory.html

    LMAO @ Blaine Gabbert and his assessment during his pro-day.
     
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    Not directly related, but it is in a way as it effects Bridgwater's draft spot.

    I think the Texan's trade down a few spots out of number 1 (or at least try to) and then draft Johnny Football...if they can't trade down they'll still pick Johnny Football. That's my prediction.
     
  12. Br4d

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    This is just such a silly draft to be picking in up high. 3+ QB's the pundits like. At least 2 guys in Clowney and Robinson that everybody sees as mainstays in the trenches for a decade. A top end WR prospect in Watkins heading a deep draft at the position. All of that and it still might be really hard to trade down because all the people in the top 6 are either thinking they're getting a QB or a HoFer and they've got a real good chance to get their guy on the 6.

    The recent trade ups have humped the team that did them with injuries last year, so there's a lot of counter-flux against trades up also.

    Poor little Texans. Need a QB and there are other great prospects available too and they're going to be forced to choose between their pick of the litter at QB or Clowney (or Robinson or even Watkins).
     
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    Blow this pick and they'll be ridiculed for certain. Can you imagine if they take Johnny Football and he busts? or Bortles and the same thing happens, while Bridgewater goes on to be a star? Of what if they take Clowney, and he IS lazy and just tries to get by on natural ability and never comes close to maximizing his potential, while one of the QBs goes on to a HOF career?

    Who was that Kentucky Center that I think the Trail Blazers or Supersonics took over Michael Jordan? Sam Bowie, wasn't it? How did that work out? lol I wouldn't want to be in the Texans' GM's seat.
     
  14. Br4d

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    They've had two #1 overall picks in their history.

    The first time they went with the QB and regretted it because the team wasn't there yet.

    The second time they went with the great talent and regretted it because the QB wasn't there yet.

    This time they have the team (we think) and so they should take the QB, however what if they take the QB and pick the wrong one and regret it?

    I just get the feeling the Texans are snakebit at the moment and any choice they make has a really good chance to go wrong.

    Edit: thinking about it for a bit, I think they should take the #1 pick to Atlanta and offer it for Matt Ryan. Atlanta can take Clowney, who they clearly want and get a QB on the 6 and let Julio Jones rehab his foot this year and come back strong in 2015.

    Edit again: Nevermind, Ryan has a ridiculous dead money cap hit if he is traded due to the way his contract was structured. He's not going anywhere. I'll bet the Falcons never thought they had a chance at going 4-12 when they signed him to the deal.
     
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    Could be. It's gonna be interesting.
     
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    I have no clue who I would take if I was the Texans. I'm guessing they are looking to trade down the pick.
     
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    Who's gonna pay the king's ransom to move to #1? It's not as bad as it used to be, but still... Minny needs a QB, but they aren't a QB away from being a Lombardi Trophy serious contender. The same goes for the Browns, and as you said, they could stay put, as could Oakland and still get the guy they want. I don't know of any team that's a DE or OLB away from being a true contender, either. I'm also not sure how many teams would trade up to #1 to take a DE/OLB prospect, even one as outstanding as Clowney, much less trade up to #1 to take a LT, no matter how good a prospect he is. I just can't see them getting any takers.
     
  18. 1968jetsfan

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    hence why I said they'd at least try to trade down a few slots. The only real chance of a trade down and staying in the top 5 is if a team really covets Clowney and they're convinced he'll be gone by the time they pick at 4,5 or 6. Clowney is probably the only player worth trading up for if a team is convinced he'll be gone before they're pick. Everyone else has someone fairly close to them in terms of their position played, so really if there's a trade to be had in the top 6 picks it's for someone moving to take Clowney most likely, though it has happened before where a team fell in love with a certain player and traded up for him despite the fact they probably didn't need to. Case in point the Vikings fooling the browns in to trading with them to take a RB (his name eludes me at the moment but he has since been traded to the Colts). The Vikings bluffed with the pick ahead of the Browns and the Browns bit...strange things can happen when a team falls in love with a certain player.

    love makes one do foolish and dumb things sometimes....
     
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    I would guess that the Texans wouldn't demand a kings ransom as long as they weren't moving down more than 3 or 4 slots in the draft. But there are so many variables, it really all depends on who teams think teams ahead of them will take and who they themselves covet above all else. It's going to be interesting, it wouldn't shock me to see 1 or 2 trades in the first 6 picks, it wouldn't shock me if there were no trades in the first 10 picks. There's a lot of talent in the top 10 players, so if there are any trades it just depends on who teams covet and if they think they have a shot at him where they are drafting.
     
  20. Br4d

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    Yep. Never fall in love with a prospect and make him a must-have proposition unless you are on the 1 pick and the rest of the NFL is in love with him also.
     

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