Duh, yeah. My bad there, case of my my fingers typing faster than I was thinking. And NC State plays a 43, Donnie.
Subtract the word "borderline" and you have it exactly right There's nothing borderline about Super Mario, SD .... the term "elite prospect" was invented for cats like Mario Williams .... 6' 7"/295 Pound defensive end, runs in the 4.6's, and was a dominant player in college ... that's Reggie White/Bruce Smith territory as a prospect By contrast Julius Peppers was around 280 with speed off the edge and that made him the #2 Overall Pick in the draft ... can you imagine if he was 295? But to be fair Peppers was even faster than Mario ... I think he ran in the 4.4's or 4.5's
If thats true I take back everything I said about Mario. If Mario can produce at his best as a 3-4 de, then I'm all for him. But if he could produce better as a 4-3 end, then I still really like him, but would rather take a different player (unless we stay in the 4-3, which does not seem to be the case). Hey Jabba, you're right. Mario is an elite prospect. I meant borderline elite if compared to nfl players. I know you like us taking Cutler with our pick, but how would you feel about Mario?
I'm all for the idea, and here's why .... Contrary to popular opinion the Patriots have never been an exclusive 34 defense {like the Steelers} and nor will the Jets be an exclusive 34 under Mangini The Patriots are a BASE 34 but they fluctuate between the 34 and the 43 ... heck, occasionally they place 2 or 5 at the LOS depending upon the game plan and/or the opponent ... that's why they are so confusing for even veteran QB's like Peyton Manning and hell on neophyte QB's, because you just can't prepare for all of the different looks they will show you during the course of a game, and well disguised, with only a week to prepare But that aside, for the most part the Pats are a 34/43 team that plays a BASE 34 {60% or better} This is what I believe Mangini has in mind for the Jets {Maybe 50/50}, and he said as much at his introductory press conference when asked if he plans on playing the 34 or the 43 ... he said we'll use multiple fronts and the emphasis will vary depending on the opponent, whatever gives us the best chance to minimize that opponents strengths, etc. etc. Anyhow, that's why I view Mario Williams as a PERFECT FIT for the Jets Mario is big and strong enough to excell in the 34, yet unusually quick/fast off the edge for such a big defensive end in the 43 ... thus he can stay on the field, AT DE, as an every down player regardless of the scheme from game to game or down to down in the system Mangini has in mind, and he can EXCELL in both the 34 and the 43 Lastly, I agree with my friend GH ... I believe he can cause MORE HAVOC coming off the edge in the 43 ... GH is dead on the money ... but Mangini WILL be employing multiple fronts and Super Mario is exactly the type of player he must envision for his multiple schemes And believe me, there are not many DE's on the planet who have the necessary skills and are perfectly constructed to dominate in both the 34 and the 43 ... usually you are one or the other, but not both JMO
No way in hell Mario Williams is going to be a linebacker. If we draft him it will be as an end in a 4-3 and/or 3-4. Anyone who says he isn't effective should just look at Richard Seymour. After Brady he's the most important player on the Pats.
Towards the end of the year they were listed as a 3-4 with Manny Lawson as the pass rusher... I remember watching them against Maryland and in their bowl game and when they went through the starting lineups NC State was running a 3-4.
