How come no one here is giving Ramsey a chance??

The great part about having Ramsey is that we can draft a QB and not have to throw them into the fire, ala Eli Manning. We can draft a QB at #4 overall or with our comp pick in the third round, it doesn't matter, that rookie QB can sit as #4 on the depth chart and spend at least a year learning from the new coaches before taking the reigns.

 

This is my feeling as well. TRamsey was brought here to have a legit chance to be the long term starter. And there is no way we'll carry 4 QBs on the roster.

 

Actually that was not my assumption at all. If you read my post again you can see that I was pointing out that Ramsey gives us flexibility to draft a QB and let them sit on the bench. I never said ANYTHING about Ramseys ability or how he is going to do, nor did I say whether or not we actually NEED that QB. I was merely saying it gives us a nice flexibility.

 

lol how could u give him a chance hes terrible

 

I can't see us keeping 4 qbs on the roster though.

 

Why not? Last year proved more than ever why that might be necessary? Also, would you feel comfortable going into the season with three complete question marks at QB?

Pennington - Don't know if his arm is going to fall off again?
Ramsey - Don't know if he needs a change of scenery or if he really does just suck?
Bollinger - Is he as bad as the Jets record indicate from last season, or was Herm and Co. just that terrible?

 

Pennington - if his arm was about to fall off, the doctors would have told him his career was over, and he would have been cut with the new regime. the second injury was much less severe than the first one.

Ramsey - has NFL starting experience and has actually put up decent numbers. he is young, and has all the physical tools to be just as good as any of the rookies.

Bollinger - he was not the problem last season. 3rd stringers on the OL and no running game were the problem.

 

QB is the single most important part of a team. Further, our QBs all have a very significant chance of completely bombing out. Therefore, it would make sense to draft a QB who can be groomed by the new coaching staff and doesn't have baggage in case this happens. And guess what, best case scenario, Pennington or Ramsey or Bollinger turn into a HOF QB overnight, and we have good trade bait. Or, they don't, and we have another very good possible QB of the future. That way, 2 or 3 years from now, we're not stuck with having to sign a "Gus Frerotte-esque" QB, and draft another QB, who in turn we'd have to wait another few years to develop.

This is one of the deepest draft classes in a long time. And on top of that, we have a ton of picks to use. You can't go wrong using one of those picks on the most important position on the team. It may not do us good next year, but do you really expect us to make a Super Bowl run next season? A smart GM covers his bases now AND tomorrow.

 

I don't think our QBs are going to experience the doom and gloom scenario that I laid out, but when I think of what the GM/HC should do with putting together a team, I would think they have to play the devil's advocate and assume the worst. Always assume the worst, especially with the Jets. They may all turn out to be fine, good, great, spectacular... who knows. Nobody does. That's why the Jets need to draft another QB. So that three years from now we aren't sitting here with our thumbs up our asses and no viable QB option. We have the draft picks now to do it, and there is enough depth in this draft that we can get a QB sometime by the 5th round.

 

I understand your point, but you make it sound like we have nothing but old, washed up QB's on the roster. Both Ramsey and Bollinger are very young, and Chad is middle of the pack in terms of age. Our QB situation is not as dire as some make it seem. We will be perfectly fine giving our current crew a shot this coming season, and if things turn for the worse, we draft a QB next season.

 

That's not what I'm saying though. What I'm saying is it would be good practice to prepare for a worst case scenario by drafting a QB in a draft that is deep talent wise & we have a lot of picks in. With 7 picks in the first 4 rounds of this particular draft, give me one good reason why we shouldn't take a QB at some point?

 

First of all, every rookie QB coming into the league knows less about the pro game than the people already in the league. That's why you bring them in, let them sit and develop, rather than draft them and throw them right into the fire.

We do need to improve other positions on the team, with 7 picks in the first 4 rounds, you can draft a DE/DT, LB, RB, C, T, G and still get a QB.

And finally, there is a very good chance that we will draft Vernon Davis. That means we will have FIVE TEs on the roster who could make the team... how is that any "better timing" than having four QBs on the roster? Especially after coming off of a season where we needed to carry five QBs?

 

We already have youth and potential at the QB position, and I think we should focus on making our team better for the guys we already have in place.

 

That's not a good idea because it's very real that none of them may pan out. I hope to hell that Penny does, but it would be stupid for the CS to ignore this position with the reality that our QBs may not be what it takes to bring this team a Super Bowl.

 

Hey, if Tangini feels we can benefit from a QB taken in the 4th round, then I'm all for it. But IMO, we should not be taking a QB anywhere near the first round.

Vernon Davis has the potential to be a special talent. Adding him to the roster gives us a playmaker and instant weapon on offense. That is something we desperately need right now because there is no one on the offensive side of the ball that scares the opposing defense.

 

But your draft pick would be just as big a question mark.