I loved it then and I love it now. You just don't pay a cornerback what the Revis was asking for. You just don't. I understand that he didn't end up getting guaranteed money, but no team is going to make a deal of such magnitude and then cut him one year later. He's at least getting two years of that contract. So, in essence, the first two years are guaranteed. He's a wonderful player, but cornerbacks are inherently replaceable.
I like it. Sheldon has been great for us and we still have a third rounder coming and we also have the fact that we didnt sink 15 million into the cornerback position. Whatever FA we can sign with that money should be taken into consideration whenever you think about the Revis trade. With the help we need for our offense and the change in philosophy for our D it is obvious that the Revis trade was necessary. Hopefully in a couple years he can come back home for a smaller price.
Revis is a unique talent and I hated to see him go,but I would take a run crushing,qb rushing D that can force throws that any db can pick off anyday. So i'm cool with it. Revis will be a high dollar player on teams that go nowhere. I don't like building teams around 1 expensive player,it doesn't work that way.
I still think it was a moronic move. Dee Milliner and cap space =/= Darrelle Revis. Wtih Revis we are 3-0 right now and we beat Tampa handily instead of by the skin of our teeth. Hated the move at the time, hate the move now.
Most CB's are interchangeable. I agree. But Revis is special. Just like most RB's are interchangeable. But Adrian Peterson is special. You don't trade your special player for a 1st round pick just because he wants, and deserves, a large contract. Wilson, Walls, Milliner, all interchangeable. Heck, even Cromartie wouldn't be terribly difficult to replace (especially since he's costing 11 million this year, 15 million next year). But Revis was different. He was special. And for the 26 million we're on the hook for for Cromartie for the next 2 years we could have kept Revis for 32 million instead. His talent is worth that extra 3 million per year. We're currently looking to extend Cromartie. If he gets less than 12 mil a year color me shocked. We ditched a special player, easily the best at his position, so that we could draft Dee Milliner and save 3 mil a year in cap space? That's not worth it. Not at all.
Well the mistake was signing Sanchez to 5 years for $58 million dollars. If we had let Sanchez go (which we should have done, he was never playing "that well"). If Tanny had not made the mistake of signing Sanchez on that huge contract ($20 million for first two years) we would have had the cap space to sign Revis at $16 million per year. I know you all agree that signing Revis to a long deal would have been MUCH better than keeping a worthless Sanchez. Signing Tebow and Sanchez is why Tanny is gone. It could also be the reason why we could not afford Revis... So blame Tanny for the Revis trade IMO.
I loved his playing ability, hated his financial distractions. He held out before he played a single snap in the NFL, then holds out against the very contract that he initially held out to get. This was going to be a constant headache going forward with him. Plus, IMO the ONLY position in the NFL that warrants Revis-type money is a top-end QB. That kind of money wrapped up in a guy that if he does his job successfully never gets his name called is not worth it. Again, I think, Revis was the best player in franchise history, but there was never going to be a point that he was financially satisfied, so the Jets did the best they could to get what they could for him.
I firmly, firmly believe signing Tebow was a 100% Woody Johnson move. Woody wanted him, so Tanny got him. That's just my opinion, no evidence or nothing, but I firmly believe it.
Yeah it is all second-guessing but mistakes were made. You have to admit signing Tebow was a mistake. Extending Sanchez's contract after an 8-8 season and one in which he made 26 turnovers and played poorly down the stretch was asinine STUPID. The extended contract at the time made him the 7th highest paid QB in the NFL. You have to admit that if we had treated Revis the way he should have been treated for performance instead of coddling Sanchez we would have been better off with Revis than Sanchez on our roster. And if we had cut Sanchez instead of extending his contract we could have signed Revis. Now, in 2013 did Idzik make the right choice trading Revis? I think he had no choice. We obviously couldn't keep him and we did the best thing we could for the Jets. Traded him and drafted a CB at #9. I think we could have made a better draft choice. Dee had a lot of surgeries and I'm worried about his health. But overall what is done is done. Tanny fucked up and we paid the price by losing Revis IMO.
I concur 1000%. There is no way Tanny- on his own- went out and got Tebow. Tanny and Rex seemed to be in lock step on pretty much everything they did, and given how obvious it was that Rex had no use for Tebow, no way Rex asked Tanny to go out and get him. It was ALL Woody, Tanny just did his bidding. _
Ryan said when asked about his curiosity as to how New England might use Tebow. “If they want to replace Brady with him, that’s fine.” He's still a fan...:metal:
Loved the player, hated the businessman, didn't want to trade him but knew it was necessary. Love Richardson and I think Milliner will be fine. All in all I'm okay with the trade. _
I think many on this board are really undervaluing how good Milliner is going to be. The kid is a top 5 talent. I am not saying he is going to Revis - but according to some you would think that Revis was lights out in his first 3 games/rookie season. Also Milliner has nothing to do with getting rid of Revis, Jets would have still drafted him with a lame duck Revis on the team as he was clearly the BPA at 9 and we would have no Sheldon.
I understood it then, and knew why it needed to be done, and I actually like/love the move now. If Big Rich can stay healthy over the course of this year, and his career, we will be clamoring over this in the years to come. No way you give a CB THAT much money, especially when you're "rebuilding" like we are.
I absolutely hate this argument. The reasons for why we traded Revis did not lie on the football field. Its the fact that we would have given a CB 16 million a year. Its not a smart move and Idzik saw it the same way.
Well, I believe you are assuming too much. Pacman Jones had a lot of talent and was drafted top 10 as well. Not every top 10 CB turns out to be Patrick Peterson. The kid has talent, sure, but right now he's playing like hot garbage and even Walls (undrafted rookie IIRC) is outplaying him. And he's already injured.
