How are we going to stop the Patriots offense?

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  1. JetsUK

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    The 2012/2013 Uggs catalogue?
     
  2. DMarsh6

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    If you rattle Tom Brady, he's DONE! I remember in the 2010 divisional round against him he was running from no one constantly looking over his shoulder cause he thought he was going to be hit. Hit em like the Giants did and they can't do shit!
     
  3. strngplyr

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    This is so simple to say on a forum, but how many teams are capable of actually accomplishing it? The Jets couldn't get close last year. The Steelers and Giants did it, Ravens didn't really get his Jersey dirty he just had an off-game. Dolphins hit him early and often due to the entire left side of OL not playing but once they adjusted Brady was Brady.

    Anyone else? Just because the solution is pretty easy to figure out doesn't means its achievable for everyone. NE still has one of the bets o-lines in the NFL and an offense designed to get the ball out of the QBs hands very quickly, not a 7 step drop system that gets decent QBs like Cutler murdered.
     
  4. DMarsh6

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    well with our secondary being upgraded I think the draft is going to be about playmakers on offense and stud defensive pass rushers...and to me that along with Rex Ryan, is enough to get to brady. You just have to put up at least 23 points vs them as well to win, that's the problem for us
     
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    Landry safety blitz have him go helmet to helmet and concuss the asshole into 2016
     
  6. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Yep. The only way to beat Tom Brady to the punch is to make him worried about the punch.
     
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    Rush 2 drop 9 in coverage 90% of the time, with the occasional all out blitz; madden style
     
  8. PatsFanTX

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    This is it in a nutshell.

    In Brady's entire 11 year career, you can count the total number of games on both hands that he had experienced huge pressure.

    Unfortunately, the Giants pulled that off twice on the biggest stage.
     
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    Although Brady is a good QB, it's easy to find the open passer when your O line is solid enough to let you stand there, smoke a cig, do your taxes and wait for somebody to get open. I see that a lot with Brady. He also throws like an average QB when he gets a few hits and his confidence gets shaken. The SB was a great example.

    A couple good hits early in the game can go a long way towards limiting the Pats offense. If our offense can come in after some bad Brady passes and slow play the clock with some ground and pound to make Brady stew in his lack of confidence can help stretch out the benefit of a couple good hits.
     
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    Baseball bat to the back of the knees.
     
  11. CONN-JET.2.0.3.

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    ^

    brady is pretty good in the pocket man. He is decisive and isn't afraid to take shots when he knows he can get the ball out in time. I do have to give him some respect for keeping locked on the receivers in the face of pressure, especially when you see what Sanchez does in those situations. Granted sanchez is a lot more mobile than brady and can make plays on the run, but if learned to slide step in the pocket while going through reads like brady does, instead of taking off on the run, he will start having a lot more success.
     
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    Not that I am endorsing your idea, but wouldn't a baseball bat to the front of the knee be more effective?
     
  13. CJLang

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    Nobody thought they were unstoppable last year. I love the revisionist historians on here. The Jets were the trendy pick going into the season.

    And all year long all the experts said the Pats were going nowhere in the postseason because of their bad defense.
     
  14. CONN-JET.2.0.3.

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    people were most definitely worried about ochocinco and haynesworth
     
  15. Milliner is your Mommy

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    You have to disturb their receivers timing and crowd the middle. Its easier for teams like the Giants because they have the ability to crowd the middle and get a good pass rush with just 4 or 5 guys. We have great corners but they are not going to do be able to do anything against those tight ends or get to Brady.
     
  16. Br4d

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    Sanchez is 2 inches shorter than Brady. Part of being able to slide in the pocket is being able to maintain your field of vision in the process. Sanchez should be outside the pocket a lot more than he has been as a Jet.

    Watch Aaron Rodgers and where he sets up. Watch Drew Brees and where he sets up. Those guys have a completely different approach to seeing the field because they have too. Having the shorter guys try to do what Brady, both Mannings, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger and Matt Schaub try to do is just self-defeating.
     
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    Sign a FS that can cover and we'll be good against the Pats.
     
  18. patfanken

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    Very accurate. The offense could very well be a bit different. It might be a bit more efficient. But what it won't be is much "better" if total passing yds is the criteria. Its hard to think they can exceed the 2nd highest passing total in history.

    That being said what the Pats have done, beyond Lloyd, is bolster their depth at WR and the OL. Here's an example - The Pats will keep 8 receivers (3 TE's 5 WRs) Lloyd, Welker, Gronk, and Hernandez are locks - Gonsales, Edelman, Stallworth, Underwood, Ocho, and Branch (if he comes back) will all be fighting for just 3 roster spots. That's a huge competition between 6 proven NFL guys.....and the winner gets to be the #5 passing option. Now that's DEPTH - and it doesn't count if the Pats draft a WR in the first 3 rounds. Then those vets chances of making the team drops even lower. But the competition will make the end result better. Now compare that to the Jets receiver situation.

    So I don't even know if Stallworth will make the roster, but if he does, it will mean he's still one of the faster WRs in the league, and a guy in certain formations, who can stretch the field.

    Lloyd is far from a burner, but he offers a skill set the Pats didn't have last season. He is strong enough to get off press coverage, and has the body control to make catches down field even when he is essentially covered. Branch was great against zones, but couldn't get off of the kind of press coverage that the Pats saw a lot of by the end of the season.

    The Pats OL is deep and good. The kind of deep and good to survive down to your #4 C. Play all but 6 games without your starting RT, and lose 4 games at LG and :LT. Gallery has been a very solid (and sometimes better) G for a lot longer than he was a bust at T. He's coming to the Pats to be one of the back up Gs and Mankins protection if he needs to go on the PUP to start the season.

    So, I don't know if the Pats offense is going to be "better" this season, but I'm pretty confident that it will be "as good".
     
  19. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    ^ Your 4th and 5th receivers generally need to play special teams. I doubt Gonzalez, Stallworth, Ocho or Branch fit that mold.

    Why are the Pats stock piling aging receivers who haven't done shit in years?
     
  20. HardHitta

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    I never put that much thought into it, but yes, I guess you could be right.
     

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