1) Saying WR is the easiest position to replace just isn't true in general. I could agree that it isn't that hard to find an acceptable posession WR ala Cotchery, but a game breaking WR that opposing Ds have to scheme for isn't easy at all. 2) What I agree with is the Jets shouldn't have to overpay neither Holmes or Edwards. I think both of them are #1 WRs although in different ways. Holmes is quick and a route runner. Edwards is strong and overpowers opposing Ds with his athletic abilities. I don't care who we keep between Holmes and Edwards (Assuming we can't keep both) but depending on who we'll keep the O will look very different. 3) If we actually keep Holmes and not Edwards I'd like the Jets to bring in a guy like Moss or TO to take Edwards place... we have strong personalities on O and should be able to handle one of these guys. 4) Remember all the Steelers could get for HOlmes last year was a 5th rd pick... and a low one too... so it's not like teams were killing each other to get him.
agree with the first 2 points. rb is much more replaceable than wr. but please no to moss or to. i'm sure every team that brings in these guys think they have strong enough personalities to handle them and it never works out. one of those guys is not what sanchez needs going into his 3rd year. and if i remember correctly, not a lot of teams even knew holmes was available before we snatched him up. it seemed more like pitt being desperate, they knew they had to get rid of him so they shipped him out of town as soon as they could. i'd be surprised if there wasn't a lot of interest in holmes.
Banned from what? Having assholes like you or mr e talk shit without even addressing the point in the thread? Having some guy jump on and call me a mexican? There's probably 4 of you who are complete dicks who make this unbearable at times. Problem is half the others on here kiss your asses so they can be in good with you all. I don't need to come here to hear that we should sign owens or moss... even wsw was spitting that shit today and he's the best poster on here. Ban me for not taking shit from some jerkoff fine.
I completely and totally disagree. I think our offense will be just fine without Holmes. If he doesn't want to be here, only wants a big pay day, then eff him. In 2009 Edwards was new to the team and wasn't yet playing at the level he did last year. Sanchez was a rookie in 2009. He showed improvement last year and will no doubt again this year. Keller has another year's experience. The Jets added a TE/WR prospect in Cumberland that has a lot of potential that wasn't here in 2009, nor was LT. Cotch had an off year in 2010. Sanchez' passing accuracy was still bad in 2010. That more than anything else is what is hampering the Jets' passing attack. Get the ball down, give receivers the opportunity to catch the ball in stride, and the passing game will markedly improve. The Jets could bring back Chansi Stuckey, put him in the slot, move Cotch back to #2, have Edwards at #1, and with LT, Keller and Cumberland and a more accurate Sanchez, the passing offense could be every bit as good, if not better than in 2010. Yes, Holmes won a few games for the Jets, but perhaps Cotch or Edwards would have done the same if their number was called in the same situation. Don't forget that if it wasn't for a stupid running into the punter penalty, Holmes' dropped passes would have cost the Jets to lose in the playoffs before they even made it to the AFC Championship game. If the re-sign Holmes for a reasonable contract, fine; otherwise, I'd say good riddance.
Yes, his reading of Ds and decision making should be improved, but again, the biggest thing is accuracy. If he gets his completion percentage up well over 60%, then this offense will soar, burner or no burner. Edwards isn't slow. Keller and Cumberland offer mismatches. The Jets don't have to have a burner to have an excellent passing offense.
It was for th e sake of the argument. I could have said 20 million. But yes I think he and his agent want 10 per. Point is of course it would be nice to have him and keep the unity. But if its over 7 million or so it has to be debated weather that's the best way to spend the money or of there are better options.
You might want to look back at my first post in this thread. It addressed the point and contained no invective. Also, I find it offensive that you think being a Mexican is insulting. Our QB is of Mexican descent.
Exactly. Having those two back is only going to help continue Sanchez's growth. But if we had to only get one back I'd rather have Edwards.
I always find it amusing when someone starts a thread they know will be unpopular, say it will be unpopular in their OP, then get offended when it is unpopular.
Did you edit this to insert all of the grammatical mistakes? Why argue on false terms? Why ask how angry we'd be if the Jets gave him 10 million when we all know he's not GETTING 10 million? I don't care what his agent asks for, no team will pay him that. It's pointless to ask how we'd feel about some imaginary situation. He's unlikely to get a contract that goes above 8 at the very highest unless a team severely overpays. Nobody is suggesting that he should be overpaid. I haven't seen the argument made by a single reputable poster that he should be paid "whatever he asks for". The thread you posted, with the simple title "Don't sign Holmes" doesn't indicate you want to discuss whether he'll receive a contract above his worth. It indicates you don't want him back. Period. The rest of your arguments about receivers and value were absurd for a team building around its young QB.
Based on your psychic instinct? Obviously the player and the agent want to make money. Since we have no real idea on what is going on with his contract it's fairly pointless to make up some numbers and argue about them, for argument's sake.
Of course. And that's been the prevailing attitude on this site. It's also vastly different from an attitude of "I don't want Holmes back."
