Hero Ball!

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  1. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he went deep, if he just goes to Conklin, it’s probably an easy first down.

    I said the same thing, hero ball.
     
  2. MDJets

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    Hopefully Zach is in a groove now and was great in the last possession. I hoping he connects the short passes better vs the Dolphins.
     
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  3. All Gas No Shake

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    def should have been a screen-type play there
     
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  4. BrooklynJetsFan

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    Zach played well enough to win. The only concerning issue was in fact the lack accuracy on the quick screens. He needs to figure that out.
     
  5. Mogriffjr

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    its funny, because I see why he made the throw.

    But at that point, just a bad choice. In FG range you don’t do that at the end of the half.

    It was also a good play, I believe the safety peeled off his guy and saw the ball go underneath, so he jumped the route, and it was man to man. I kinda wonder if someone ran the wrong route there, poor spacing between the WR’s there.
     
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  6. tomdeb

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    Ask the Ravens how, as you say, "trying to get a TD" worked for them today on their final possession when they had the easy FG right in front of them.

    I still say it was a stupid call, especially throwing the ball anywhere near Jeff Smith. The point is IT BACKFIRED and totally turned the momentum back toward the steelers. I would have run the clock down, kicked the FG, and gone into half with the momentum leading 13-3 AND receiving the 2nd half kickoff. That foolish play call near cost us the game if Zach hadn't led a great comeback. Glad you liked the call--I didn't. :D
     
  7. Lon Chaney

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    I'm with you on this. Gotta have game awareness here. Run something safe. Get the 3 points AND the ball coming out of the break
     
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  8. Acad23

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    Yep... with the game progressing as it was until that point... you go up 2 scores and go into halftime and adjust.

    We basically gave them 6 points when we didn't need to... it wasn't gonna be a high scoring game at any point.
     
  9. dawinner127

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    Completely different. The Ravens didn't score a point in the second half of that game and the Bills out gained them 200:130 in the second half. Harbaugh had zero faith in his defense getting a stop. He went for the throat to force the Bills to get 7, nothing wrong with it. It's been his MO for over a year already and FWIW the analytics also said to go for it.
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  10. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    damn the analytics, That was absolutely a dumb decision.
     
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  11. dawinner127

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    What are you talking about? It was an 83% chance to win the game if they got it.
     
  12. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    I edited my post. I focused on the first column that had only a 2% increaseed chance.

    How do you interpret that? I saw it as saying "if you decide to go for it you will win 65% of the time. If you decide to kick a FG you will win 63% of the time. That's the winning percentage based on each decision, regardless of whether it's sucesdfull of not. But I'm really not sure.

    Also, the success rate of going for it and scoring seems high to me.
     
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  13. Jets81

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    They need to figure out the OL fast. Hard to have backup plans for your backup plans but they can’t rely on Zach to run around like that all season.

    They get a league average OL in front of him and he could become scary good..
     
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  14. dawinner127

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    The red number is the WP before the ball is snapped. So just lining up like you are going for it already increases your WP by 2%. The 2nd column is the % of each thing happening. The third column is if that decision fails that becomes your WP and then the final column is if you are successful.

    Going for 2 from the 2 yard line is almost a 50/50 play so it's probably right on the money with the success rate to go for it.
     
  15. bicketybam

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    So his decision to go for it gave them a 2% better chance of winning. I guess I didn't need to edit my original post
     

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