No, people on here said Gerhart or Suh deserved it, but Ingram would win. Oh well, better than one of the QBs. I can't say I'm not a bit pissed, though. All of those 1sts next to Toby's stats and bias and ignorance win out.
Maybe one day the establishment will one day figure out that white players can be more than "scrappy" and play quarterback effectively.:rofl:
The fact that Richardson came in and essentially won the Auburn game for Bama should have negated any shot Ingram had at winning the Heisman. Gerhart was clearly the best player on offense in the nation but like has been said ignorance and bias will always win out in the world of college football.
The sad thing is if Spiller was in there as opposed to Suh Gerhart probably would have won. Suh won the Southwest reigion which likely would have given more votes to Gerhart while Spiller would have taken votes in the South and Southeast reigon away from Ingram.
I'm not sure how much the finalist list impacts the voting. Spiller got his share anyway. Maybe he would've gotten a little more had he been invited. It's hard to say.
If I had to guess, I'd say that the fact that Alabama had never had a Heisman winner played a part in things as well
If you're implying that I meant racial bias, you're wrong. I'm talking about the fact that the only West Coast players since Plunkett to win the award have been from USC, a decidedly national program. Every national media person I read save one voted Gerhart #1 overall. Obviously, I think it's safe to assume that the East and South carried him and that the National Media and West Coast media are who made it so close for Gerhart. Only 28 points overall separated the two. 1304 to 1276. I'm talking about ignorance because of things I read like "Ingram rushed against significantly better defenses." The SEC had better defenses overall, but in terms of rushing defenses, Gerhart's Top 6 that he faced were ranked better than the 2nd best defense Ingram faced. His lowest total was 82 yards. He was the first major conference back to lead the nation in both TDs and yards since Ricky Williams. And...despite the idea that Ingram is more explosive (which I agree with), it was Gerhart who had the highest number of 10+ yard runs in the nation with 50.
Actually, I disagree. Heisman running backs have done fairly well from 1987-2006 Barry Sanders Ricky Williams Eddie George busts Rashaan Salaam Ron Dayne in between Reggie Bush It's much worse for QBs. Troy Smith Matt Leinart Chris Weinke Danny Wuerffel Jason White Eric Crouch Ty Detmer Gino Torretta Andre Ware (huge bust) Carson Palmer (the lone good one) Charlie Ward (I doubt he would've been successful had he even gone to the NFL) career backups or worse, with one exception. That's 10/11 of Heisman QBs from 1987-2006, covering 20 years. Leinart and Smith are still young, but it's looking unlikely that they'll be legitimate NFL starting QBs.
