Haters, Feel Free to Dispute These Numbers...

Discussion in 'Tebowmania' started by FakeSpike13, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. JFjets

    JFjets New Member

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    There's just one big problem with this post. According to the Tim Tebow Haters bible, you're not allowed to use Tebow's stats or compare him to other young NFL QB's if he compares favorably to them. You're only allowed to make those comparisons if he compares UNfavorably to them. Get it straight!

    As I have said before, the reasons that many people hate Tim Tebow have nothing to do with football, therefore he could lead his team to a Super Bowl win and the first words out of their mouth would be why some other person, group or set of circumstances was responsible for the win, that Tebow really didn't have anything to do with it. All you can do is present facts, you can't make them see that facts are objective and no respecter of persons, they only tell the truth. Whereas opinions, yeah, everybody has one and they frequently are as far removed from facts as possible.
     
  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    This thread has been done before, with the same cherry-picked stats. Why bother making an argument against it when the person repeating the stats is just a worthless troll?
     
  3. FakeSpike13

    FakeSpike13 Banned

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    Funny how the guy who rarely brings anything but name-calling to the conversation calls someone else a troll...

    The majority of your posts are nothing but an attempt to get under people's skin, and add absolutely nothing to the conversation.

    But don't worry....I'll make sure not to let it get to me.:beer:
     
  4. FakeSpike13

    FakeSpike13 Banned

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    I don't bring up college stats...They're irrelevant, or else Colt Brennan would be an elite QB and Dan Marino wouldn't be in the HOF.
     
  5. Bannon

    Bannon New Member

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    I think she's a girl, right?
     
  6. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    You should really fax these numbers to the other 31 Front Offices in the league, because clearly, you know so much more than they do after three years. Boy, did they all miss the boat.
     
  7. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    You forgot the most important fact, Junc: all of them are still with the teams who drafted them, and all of them are STILL starting QBs for those teams.
     
  8. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    I still wish we had a QB we could have had Sanchez behind in 09, say Chad or someone. I believe sitting helps development and progression much better than starting game 1.
     
  9. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    I think sitting is better too, but I lean towards sitting for 1/2--3/4 of the first season (depending on the QB's readiness, maturity, etc); let him take his lumps before the season ends, and then start fresh in the second season.
     
  10. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I think this is a great idea. I think it's tough to implement in a team like BAL or NYJ where the rest of the team is a playoff contender. It's hard to sit somebody if you think they give you the best chance to win even if it makes their future better/brighter for them. You have to let the QB take licks to learn. Its' what happened to Sanchez in his third year, but he already had two years of do this and that instilled in him. It's better to take them early and grow from it.
     
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You wouldn't have the foggiest idea what the majority of my posts include, but keep thinking that you do. You've been nothing but a pot-stirrer since you registered. We can compare post histories any old time you like.

    Your thread is still hanging by a thread, BTW.
     
  12. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I thought you were here for Tebow, not chicks. Does the idea of a female on a football forum threaten your ookey feelings for your lisping hero? Or did you just want to compare taste in high heels?
     
  13. Bannon

    Bannon New Member

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    No, just he called you a guy and I've always thought you were a girl. I like it better when it's not a complete sausage fest.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  14. The Uniform Bomber

    The Uniform Bomber Spivey's Agent

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    Agreed. It becomes a sticky situation when good teams, like the two you used for example, are able to draft a franchise QB; that's not the way the NFL is 'supposed' to work (not that it's a bad thing, rather, it just usually doesn't happen that way).

    So, when a team like the Jets had a chance to draft Sanchez to go along with a top-tier Defense and running game, what are they supposed to do? On one hand, you can let the kid sit and see how the season unfolds with an already solid team. On the other hand, do you play the young kid who's supported by a strong cast and therefore he'll have a chance to experience success early?

    The problem with the Jets was, in 2009 we had a Playoff Defense and rushing attack. Sanchez wasn't exactly ready to carry that team to its potential, as we saw by that color-coded system they implemented (remember the red/yellow/green thing?) If they allowed him to play freely and make his mistakes, it might have advanced his development more, but then you'd be sacrificing the success of the rest of the team, which was a Playoff caliber team. It was quite the conundrum.

    I guess the best situation in that scenario would be to have a vet who's capable of playing at the same level of the rest of the Playoff-caliber team, while the youngster waits and learns.
     
  15. The Uniform Bomber

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    How did you infer that Abyzmul was a girl?
     
  16. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    Very well put. Looking back since we didn't win the SB you can say we did the wrong thing. But winning the SB could have propelled Sanchez like it did for Big Ben (who I think if Sanchez were to max his talent it would be Big Ben he would more resemble than a Brady or Peyton). The Jets were only a couple plays from the SB, twice, so I can't blame them for thinking they could get it with Sanchez. Obviously you didn't know Tone was gonna become available either or LT would want to join and things like that.

    And to your last point. If you had a Vet who could play at the level, you probably weren't drafting or looking for QBs in the 1st round. The Chargers were in a good place. The Giants really weren't QB wise but Eli learnt by throwing.
     
  17. BroncosFan1345

    BroncosFan1345 New Member

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    Pretty much...
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Would it ruin it if I put a picture of a scantily clad ho-bag in my avatar? I don't want to taint your TGG expeeeerience.
     
  19. Backup QB

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    Relax, guy or girl... whatever you are. Someone called you a guy and he was correcting them. Nobody really cares what your gender is.

    Back on topic...

    Considering the lack of experience he had as a rookie, I think the OPs original post was fair.
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    What topic?
     

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